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This email from Administration. I just want to attack enemy. Why did i get penalty? Will i be blocked?
"You have been imposed a penalty or warned:
Player was imposed a penalty of 1 gold. // bad sportsmanship in combat, attacking an ally, https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=607501480
Most probably, you have violated the game's rules:
https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=5
We persistently ask you to get acquainted with the rules and to never violate them henceforth. Otherwise, you character will be blocked.
This message has been generated automatically, please do not answer it." | Why did i get penalty?
attacking an ally
You attacked your ally twice, once with chain lightning and once with Magi
Will i be blocked?
No. This was an warning, but if you keep doing it you will be fined and if you still persist eventually blocked.
oh and do you greedy
This is an quote from your ally during the battle
Seems like he also complained because he felt you killed more than your share of the hunt | Seems like he also complained because he felt you killed more than your share of the hunt
What I meant to say it was maybe part of his motivation. It is not illegal in it self but it could induce him to complain about the two actions where you did damage your ally | | I say that your ally has worse sportsmanship for reporting you over such a trivial matter. He lost nothing, plus the combat was easy, he should be happy you helped him. | | Also, if he wanted to kill more, he could easily do his next hunt completely alone and balance the points he missed. | Even my grandma can kill this many Grandmaster bowmen (368)
Player banned by moderator Lord Khellendros until 2014-03-29 15:30:15 // Off topic - Flood (Relapse) | | [Post deleted by moderator Lord Khellendros // False info - Local rule 2 in C&A ViTaB] | https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=1255559
ask her for an explanation if you care, she gave you the fine | 1/We know that we sometimes need to attack our ally to kill enemy for win. I just want to kill enemy.
2/"oh and do you greedy". Share of hunt is not illegal and he spoke Russian, i did not understand Russian. If he wanted to kill more, he could easily do his next hunt.
So, what was my action illegal? | 1/We know that we sometimes need to attack our ally to kill enemy for win. I just want to kill enemy.
You did it twice, neither of the times was necessary IMO. Last one in particular was completely unnecessary.
So, what was my action illegal?
You have already been notified that it was for "Bad sportsmanship". It is up to the keepers to judge if that has occurred.
quote]-Staged combats, paid-for combats, deliberate losses, bad sportsmanship, giveaway combats
Read local rule 2
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=2124818
You can appeal this here if you feel you have been treated unjust. But you only got a warning and I personal think you did breach the rule, even if it was a minor incident. I would let it pass as the juries times is limited and other more severe cases also needs to be addressed | -Staged combats, paid-for combats, deliberate losses, bad sportsmanship, giveaway combats
Got messed up a bit, where is the edit button when I need it.
Read local rule 2
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=2155656 | | This was a frivolous complaint, in my opinion by your teammate. Chain Lightning and Magi is a lot different than, say, fireballing, firewalling, ice ringing(around an enemy), or spiking him. How petty... | 2. This Forum branch is for applications regarding:
-Insults, swearing, rudeness, threats, flood in either Tavern or Battle chat
-Staged combats, paid-for combats, deliberate losses, bad sportsmanship, giveaway combats
-Intentional AFKing (going "away from keyboard" during the course of a battle)
I still don't see any rule broken. Bad sportsmanship is a badly defined term and it demands common sense to explain if it applies in each single case. My common sense says that it doesn't apply now. | Bad sportsmanship is something which should only apply in a case where there is any legit damage done to the character of the one complaining. (In a sense any hamper to the experience, skill point, gold, etc. received by the battle)
If none of the above happens, I don't see why such a complaint can even be considered as a complaint when there is no grievance to be redressed upon.
Childish imho. | | I think they should move this post to complaints for battle/tavern....also is very childish on behalf of the accuser and accused | As far as I see, It's nothing of your fault
He should notify at lease 50/50 or 50% if he want to kill 50%
(which noone need to understand other's language)
The damage dealt is *not even* minor case here whether necessary or not since there's always fun in easy hunt (sometime we purposely do like this for fun and both party usually happy)
But u get 1 gold penalty , this is nothing for u too.
By this, the complaint party (that Russian) satisfy while it didn't harm u at all.
One happy, while no harm to other (may be this is the choice of the one who impose penalty)
But, IMO, same as other is that it doesn't worth a warning.
It doesn't worth to waste time here at all
(unless u want to kill some time and fun)
Regards
Gaara | for darkelf84:
Think of this as soccer. You are a very good player, you scored most of the goals and your team won. But you never passed the ball to your teammates, you played all alone and for your own fun. So even if your team won the game, your teammates didn't have as much fun as you. So they consider you a bad sportsman.
This is exactly what happened here, you were able to inflict more damage in that combat, but it was an easy win and you could have shared the fun with your teammate. But instead, you decided to do as much damage as possible, even if doing so would give your teammate less exp and FPS.
So you deliberately took some fun away from your teammate => bad sportsmanship. How bad was it? Not bad at all. And this is why you got only a symbolic 1 gold penalty. | hmm, i just watch the replay. yes, your chain lightning did kill your partner appa. i dont care whoever make those assumption above (such as saying you were kill more than your partner and so on)
let's just make it simple: base on the rules, friendly attack can be punished. you did get a warning for that. case closed.
as a Lv15 spell caster, you should know the chain lightning will need to hit 4 targets to end its bounce. BUT, you still use chain lightning in a 3 stacks hunt.
the problem is here, assume even the 2nd bounce not hit the appa (you might argue no idea on next target to be bounced) but another GMB stack, the next bounce will hit your partner troops as well because of the closer range.
and, the even worse thing you didnt do in that battle: an instant apology on chat for kill his troop accidentally (whether you were not do it on purpose or not).
else, you might be able to cool down your partner and make him believe it was an accident. without that, he thought you were kill his troops intentionally = report you. | | simple. if your move(shooting,spell cast or melee attack) kills your ally, at least said "sorry" especially you playing with random people. otherwise it will be considered as rudeness. | | BTW, does friendly fire still damage the fsp outcome ? |
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