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1. Do you want to level up your guilds?
2. Do you want to level up your faction skills?
3. Do you want to level up your combat level?
As people must have observed, I come and go. This time I've noticed something very unusual though, that has shaken my understanding of leveling up. Ie, it's a bad thing now?
Example: https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=5850294
Pour Me --> He has 4 guilds that he has refused to level.
It's all down to the exp penalty calculations, which heavily penalize going above average in number of parameters, and average faction skill level.
Unlike ever before, I now feel like at CL18, I never face "monsters" in CG. There used to be people 4-5 stats ahead of me but now, I have almost a 2 stat gap. And I don't think it's because my character got stronger. Instead, people either refuse to level their guilds, or are forced to level up the combat level.
So in a way, I'm in a sweet spot in CL18. The game play is nearly identical to CL19, and I don't have to grind guilds ever again. So why would I want to level up? In fact, any time I get an extra guild point or faction level, it means I get a harsh exp penalty, which will make reach CL19 faster, and that won't be worth it.
Earlier, I used to avoid playing a faction beyond FSl12, because FSL12->FSL13 takes lot of FSP and gives only one ini. Now? I'd rather never get fsp again at all, and I'd gladly dump it somewhere it doesn't bring me parameters. Very weird timeline.
And it seems events bring so much more guild points than actually doing the guild battles now?
The Smuggler event is giving me 2 guild points for 3200 exp. Meanwhile, if I did an actual WG fight, I'd get 13000 exp for a single guild point... So why would I ever again play WG or MG or HG normally?
I'm very close to HG11 (Hunters' guild: 10 (7983.69) +16.3), but I'm debating myself on whether I should level it up or let it be. That's why I wanted to gather your thoughts. Do you try to level guilds anymore? Or are you like me purely a CG+Event player now. | | To be clear, none of this is a criticism. I'm actually very glad how it's all played out, since it's only CG and events that I enjoy. I don't have to break the rules to level guilds anymore. Or find all kinds of micro-optimisations. And I have zero qualms about never reaching LeG14 and gaining a free ini because quite literally that might be a bad thing now. | The smuggler event was an anomaly. Most events give ~5k exp per guild point (at CL20). That's still better than grinding most guilds outside of events, but do note that WG points aren't that common in them, so if you want to raise that guild, you'll still have to do the "costly" daily battles.
I think most people get to around a ~20% exp penalty before deciding not to level guilds/antis. That's certainly how I plan my character. You can find your current penalty at https://daily.heroeswm.ru/progress, as well as what the penalty with an extra guild point/set of antis would be.
I appreciate it. I hated having to worry about guilds to be competitive, and the updated penalty means that it's not such a big concern. Having to deal with CG is still a pain though - you can't avoid it forever, since at CL22, the penalty is pretty much meaningless, I believe. | | Not having to use mirror has been a big plus. | | yea i did this on level 19, i had 4 guilds that were ready to level but i didnt level them because of the exp penalty. When i did level up to 20 i leveled them so i was "caught up" with other pumped players. its a little sad thats how the system works but it is what it is. i likely will reach a similar point on this level becore i level up with hg mg tg and wg | | Also if you are already pumped i would suggest only actually leveling guilds that give primary points since those are useful for mage builds and/or might builds compared to attack point that is useless to mage builds. | I have a distinct approach to this. My priority is to level up my guilds as quickly as possible, after which I take a break from PvE content for an extended period
For the past 4-6 months, my focus has shifted exclusively to CG and clan PvP, with occasional participation in events for parts of rare arts.
This yielded significant benefits to me, particularly in clan PvP. Boasting the highest stats and anti-FSL at CL21, I have gained a competitive edge over my others. Only Yoda surpasses me in stats but with 2 extra def from LG16 which is not very useless in clan PvP | Example: https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=5850294
Pour Me --> He has 4 guilds that he has refused to level.
He just likes to join clan PvP and bully players with normal stats who are CL 18 and join the clan war. What's the point of that? Winning the war maybe? :-)
Do what you enjoy. It's funny how players care about XP until they hit around CL 22. After that, it doesn't matter anymore, and they'll do anything to level up faster and reach the top.
The only reason anyone cares about getting stats or being boosted is because they want to maintain their rank, win more CGs, and brag about beating average players to boost their ego (like one of the Rengar players just did in this post).
Boasting the highest stats and anti-FSL at CL21, I have gained a competitive edge over my others.
This game should be advertised as a great way to boost your ego. | The only reason anyone cares about getting stats or being boosted is because they want to maintain their rank, win more CGs, and brag about beating average players to boost their ego (like one of the Rengar players just did in this post).
Quite judgemental without complete knowledge about the topic
Win more CGs, yes
Brag about beating average players? I compete with players like this - https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=681115
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=5717387
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=2415887 has same ini as mine, meaning i have no advantage over him being one cl higher for an elf vs elf
Why do i plan smartly about my guilds/xp/levelling up and have better chances against players also with great stats? It is better to lose on skill rather than losing because you have less stats | I'm very close to HG11 (Hunters' guild: 10 (7983.69) +16.3), but I'm debating myself on whether I should level it up or let it be. That's why I wanted to gather your thoughts. Do you try to level guilds anymore? Or are you like me purely a CG+Event player now.
If you have time to play a lot of CG and level it up, it is basically pointless to do HG now. I rushed to HG 11 too and it turned out to be the biggest scam for me.
Same goes for building anti like you pointed out, good thing I don't have much antis built though.
For the past 4-6 months, my focus has shifted exclusively to CG and clan PvP, with occasional participation in events for parts of rare arts.
This yielded significant benefits to me, particularly in clan PvP. Boasting the highest stats and anti-FSL at CL21, I have gained a competitive edge over my others. Only Yoda surpasses me in stats but with 2 extra def from LG16 which is not very useless in clan PvP
Kinda same for me too, although I played a lot of CGs instead of clan pvp. It is better to have good stats than not have them. Atleast to the point where you don't get much exp penalty. You can level up your HG, MG from events now, they give a lot of guild points for comparatively lesser exp. CG takes a lot of time to build and skill, unless you just auto duels the whole day.
The only reason anyone cares about getting stats or being boosted is because they want to maintain their rank, win more CGs, and brag about beating average players to boost their ego (like one of the Rengar players just did in this post).
I mean, wasn't this topic a discussion? He expressed his views, feel free to express yours rather than ridicule someone else lol
And if you are so much against it why are you leveling up your CG by doing auto duels whole day? Trying to brag too? :P
If you're not so concerned about exp and guilds, show us by doing Group Battles) | | y'all mad, win, it is not difficult, there are anti factions, no matter even if there is a 5 stat difference they will win |
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