| Author | Elves |
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| When did elves get so weak in lower levels in PvP, I get trashed in duels by anyone including wizards. So far I've lost against tribals, knights & wizards. Those are the only ones I even see in group battles. Against who can elves win at level 6/7. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also which set of cheap artifacts should I buy for PvP (not CG since most CG matches I get placed against higher level opponents its hard rn) |
| classic elves are pretty trash in pvp in most cases. charmer is the pvp version of elf if you want to play them. |
| also looking back at your last cg duel vs the wizard. you made the mistake of not attacking gargoyles first with elite forest keepers. your arts are also not the best in slot items either. if you are serious about pvp you should wear the best items at all times or you just decrease your chances of winning by a lot. |
| what arts do you suggest for level 6/7 for CG battles then |
| well if you could afford it sword of cold, flame dagger ring of coldx2 and clover of fortune. that would give you like +6 attack +5 defence at least, more if you run other donation armors on top of them |
They don't need donation arts for level 6/7. I also don't believe it would add up to +6 attack and + 5 defense with those arts at that level. For example, level 7 unlocks sword of might which seems better than Sword of cold stat wise which gives +4 attack, 3% elemental dmg compared to former's +5 attack, 3% ini.
for FrozenTank:
I remember elves being good at PVP but they need lucky shots with elf bowmen at your level, which means classes with faster shooters can shut you down. Anyhow, I would advise you to watch the battles of minor tournament winners from your level to learn how to play as elf. I am sure there is a lot you can improve rather than worrying about donation arts. Level 6/7 elf is not having any units that can rush the enemy so a shield might even be better in most cases than dagger.
Also, you mentioned wizards and knights. These two are always tough to face as elf because gargoyles and swordsman are usually too tanky for you and often times your win is reliant on lucky triggers to kill them before they wipe your relatively frail army. Funny thing is this matchup is entirely flipped once you get to higher levels. Mages vs elves is a battle that should favor elf once you have all units unlocked. |
| for virtual_vitrea: he is using ini rings> rings of cold would be +2 attack +2 defence +1 ini each. 4 attack and 4 defence increase right off the bat. sword of cold is 4 attack at his level, 2 higher then the sword he is using. so 6 attack 4 defence right off the bat. each armor piece is 1 defence mre then shop at that level, 6 attack and 6 defence higher just by using proper items by my quick count. |
for FrozenTank: would suggest joining a clan like immortal dynasty or angels and demons that has depo. you can rent proper pvp items for a few fights and see the difference yourself.
for your level i would suggest:
2x ring of cold
helmet of sun
armor of sun
innitiative boots
clover of fortune
shop bow
dagger that gives 2 attack 3 ini
sword of cold |
Or you can buy the arts that are close to ones slayerofall suggested from shop, a few stats lower than donation items if you can't afford those, but for sure don't use just ini rings or the cheapest in general.
Ring of faith is available at your lvl.
https://www.lordswm.com/art_info.php?id=dring5 |
for slayerofall:
I guess you are trying to help but you should avoid making suggestions when you don't know your stuff. Is it reasonable for a level 6/7 player to spend 2k per battle for arts like those? Especially when those arts will not give him any meaningful advantage over the best shop arts already available to him at that level. By using best shop arts, he will lose out on nothing compared to donation arts. Rings of Cold are the only art out of all those you suggested that will give him a small advantage compared to the shop alternative. I don't want you to paint a picture that he needs those arts or he can't succeed in PvP because that's simply misleading for someone at that combat level. He needs to improve his skill by learning how the better players at his level play PvP rather than worrying about donation arts. |
| As suggested I bought the best shop artifacts excepts the rings for now, since I cant afford them. Can anyone link me with the tournament matches for lvl 7? I dont know how to find them |
Battles tab/tournaments
https://www.lordswm.com/tournaments.php
The "empty" exp that you'll gain from quick tournaments is not the best for your character at this lvl though. |
for Calamity
I went inside the tournaments tab but Im not able to find the match ids, can you guide me further on how to find elf matches on lvl 7? |
https://daily.heroeswm.ru/mt52/rating
U can use this daily site .for past tournaments preceding this just change number from 52 to another number in the link |
for rikudosennin:
Thank you so much, watching those battles were so informative. I'm watching against all factions to get an idea on how to play against them. Beautiful site which records everything. Thanks again |
https://prnt.sc/cZ9hUF_0G9Gy
Stat comparison for level 7. The donation arts give a few% dmg bonuses (very small) but definitely loses out on initiative. Also, donation set costs about 2k per battle, other set costs between 900-1k.
I used this link - https://daily.heroeswm.ru/n/dressroom
You can decide for yourself now. |
