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AuthorWhen did expert holy stop countering poison?
Expert holy dispersion used to have a 100% of removing poison. Now I can no longer defend grandmaster bowmen, because I can't remove the poison. This is costing me 1000 gold just to defeat it, and it's impossible now.

When did this change, and more importantly, why? What's the point of dispersion if it has no effect?
Formula for dispersion:
Efficiency=Base efficiency-([Caster SP]-[Disperser SP])*3%

Base efficiency with expert holy is 100%. SP of poisoners is 2.

https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=31
100 - ([2]-[10])*3%
100 - (-8)*3%
108 * 3%
108 * .03
3.24% chance of dispersion

That's a pretty slim chance for having expert holy and 10 SP.
100 - ([2]-[10])*3%
100 - (-8)*3%
108 * 3%
108 * .03
3.24% chance of dispersion


Your Order of Operations is wrong. I believe it should be:

E=[100-(2-10)*3]%
E=[100-(-8*3)]%
E=[100-(-24)]%
E=124%

You should have a guaranteed Dispersion in the given situation, unless I'm wrong.
4. ->> That would it be so nice. However, here is the combat where I had expert holy and 10 SP:

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=519689557

So either that formula is wrong, the code is wrong, or Expert Holy Dispersion means nothing anymore.
poison is no longer considered "magic" damage since decay entered the game.

Now a magic user can earth-damage *ANY* troop except those immune to earth, and there is *NO WAY* to dispel poison inflicted by poisoning troops (thugs, poisoners, and so on).

This means that poisoners are now one of the most damaging units (ignoring defense and unstoppable) and dispersion has become almost useless (since it doesn't fully dispel decay unless you have a huge difference for the dispeller, and costs twice as much as a decay spell).

Sad, but that's the way it is.
[Post deleted by moderator Arctic // ]
which means that if both the caster and disperser SP is same then the efficiency is 100%?
for guyb:
does it means poisoners poison can stack up with decay?
from what i know, dispersion only can remove cast from the darkness magic
darkness magic can cast decay which mean only decay can be remove by dispersion spell

poison are impossible to remove with dispersion as it not one of darkness magic
same goes as mayhem and fire vulnerability
9#

does it means poisoners poison can stack up with decay?


yes, but only on living creatures.
Proper answer has been given in post 6.
Posion of Posioners, Renegade thugs and Wyverns is no longer a magic effect and thus cannot be removed by Dispersion or Antimagic.
closed by Arctic (2013-03-08 02:00:48)
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