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| Author | Half Upgrade.. |
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First a few stats...
Zombies --> Infected Zombies
(+1 min-max dmg, +1 attack, +1 Initiative, +Infecting strike)
Gargs --> Elemental Gargs
(+1 Max dmg, +5 HP, +1 Defense, +1 Speed, +1 Initiative, +Immune to water and fire)
FK ---> EFK
(+1 min dmg, +1 attack, +1 Defense, +4 Initiative, +Battledance)
Wolfrider --> Raiders
(+2 Attack, +2 Defense, +2 HP, -Double Strike, +Triple Strike)
Rogues --> Shrews
(+1 Attack, +1 Defense, +2 Initiative, +1 Speed, +No retaliation)
Demons --> Incediaries
(+2 attack, +1 defense, +1 min-max dmg, +1 Initiative, +Inflame)
Bowmen --> Xbows
(+1 Defense, +4 max dmg, +3 HP, +2 shots,-1 Initiative, -Volley, + Aimed shot)
So basically all of the above except bows actually get upgraded hands down, no thinking about it, etc. Bows on the other hand, lose an amazing ability and 1 Initiative... Already bows are slow, now they're slower (most other shooter have 10+ initiative)
Now after you get guardians this isn't much of a prob, but until then, I see it as one, I find it painful thinking about upgrading these guys...
What do you guys think? I think this downgrading business is pushing it.. it's not like they come any cheaper, and tier 1 troops are useless... | Demons --> Incediaries
Zombies --> Infected Zombies
use less too | | so u needn't to upgrade them. use normal bowmen with higher initiative and volley ability XD | if dats wat u feel
Decisive no
-1 | | :) oh you underestimate aimed shot ability, that ability gives them most powerful shooter in closed range. no wonder they lose 1 initiative, | lol
already knight is 1 of most powerful faction at level 8 and 9
xbows r 1 of awesome upgrades
check there increase in hp and increase in max damage much higher than others
+xbows got huge number due to which if few dies in begning wont make much difference + get monks also
just get some defensive talents and play u will see there power | i forgot to tell abt aimed shot
it will double your damage + luck can kill mostly any 1 so no 1 can stand near them within 3 range | Yes, when it comes to 're-balancing', knights seems to always get the short end of the straw.
- Battle Dive nuffed
- Escort nuffed
- Defensive talents - talent points needed increased
- every mini-balancing every done since I joined more than 2 years ago -> I got NOTHING (maybe other CLs, but not mine). Not even +1 recruit. :D
And of course, everyone already sees knights as noob opponents that they can pawn easily. :)
BUT, in this case, X-Bows will get you an insane number of MG points from killing all those high level monsters with ultra high defense.... in min arts. ;) | xbows deal the highest damage in the game ( apart from new year creatures and enemies )
how can they be worthless... | for syltan:
No idea what you're on about
for xlaw:
Just saying it's not quite an upgrade
Now I agree that once we bring aimed shot actually working into the picture (i.e. the x bows are still alive, and someone is close enough to get hit) H
However I fail to believe that any person in their right mind would get anywhere near them...
Yes, I do agree that they would own in hunts and MG.. | | Xbow rocks, if you don't like them bring your bowmen into the group battle :) | | What your failing to recognise is the significance of that extra 4 to max damage. If they hit that top damage bracket they'll do a lot of damage, aimed shot or not. The most effective way of using them is in combination with bless because the range of damage between max/min is so wide- xbows with a bless cast are very effective. They also have better HP and defense than bowmen so they can take more hits, even if they have their turn later than bowmen would. | you should first play with xbow and see how amazing they are before making such threads...lol
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i disagree with you
knight is one of the strongest factions
if they get 'balance' the way you want, they become so overpowered. | However I fail to believe that any person in their right mind would get anywhere near them...
wht they(other) going to do, if you have 80+xbow standing close with guardians and monk, you have either expert defense(might) or expert holy+mass Evasion. | i can understand your frustration. but thats what we need to play with.
its hard to lose all your xbows in duels or GB against factions like elf, barb and necro because of low durability. but nothing can be done.
you wont complain when you get monks. so dont worry much. | for Mohini:
Shoot them down, Use spells, charge them, at level 8, if max xbow, swords are low numbers... no evasion nothing, I'm talking about till guardian come along *sigh*
for Atheros:
you should first play with xbow and see how amazing they are before making such threads
ANd then what if I prefered bows after playing with xbows...?
Anyway thanks to those who actually read what I wrote... I was just trying to express how wrong the idea of downgrading upgrades is, and get a little chilled opionion, I failed | | closed by Nav_lfc (2011-07-27 21:02:03) |
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