| Author | Travelling with 1 troop |
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Lets get this straight once and for all because i have just sern a topic about kotrin banning people for 'giveaway battles'
occasionally i travel with 1 troop if i am in a hurry because i might need to go somewhere in real life. obviously this means will intentionally lose the combat
But is this really against the rles?
surely i have the right to travel with as many troops as i so desire especially if i dont have time to muck about with afk thieves.
so is this illegal or not?
Thanks everybody |
| Sorry lots of typing errors |
| It's not illegal. |
| THen why did you fine Kusika for it? |
THen why did you fine Kusika for it?
Kusika missklickt to attack enemy army some times in a row, because of his mouse, then hes got punished by Kotrin n_n |
it's legal.
for danielns13: Please don't argue with that anymore. It's getting chaotic. |
Quotes from the rules (https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=5):
A staged combat by definition is one where any one of the parties or party members intentionally loses to the other for any reason different from having technical problems with access to the game.
There's no exception for 'unwanted battles' in the rules (ie. getting ambushed).
So it is a staged combat, as the victim actively participates in his/her losing the battle a priori, by recruiting only one unit.
Staged combats leading one of the parties to losing a priori will be punished for.
Quite straightforward. Staged battles are illegal.
Summary: Travelling with one unit is illegal according to the rules of the game.
In practice: It is commonly accepted and practiced, noone has been punished for it (or at least I din't know about it.) |
It's not illegal.
Summary: Travelling with one unit is illegal according to the rules of the game.
lolwut? from reading:
A staged combat by definition is one where any one of the parties or party members intentionally loses to the other for any reason different from having technical problems with access to the game.
i'd say its illeagal,
OT:to bad people get punished for this and people trading through 7-8 multis arent even looked at, just my 2c |
how is it intentionally when its definitely not intended?
so traveling without art and then get ambushed would be intentional losing as well (if lose)? since thief need to wear at least min AP (and most don't) so they have the upper hand - and will most probably win
besides, that would also be giveaway combat since you are giving the thief thousands of exp, whereas if you travel with 1 unit, the thief gets less than 100 exp and like 0.16 skill point? |
I do not belive this is illegal however I dont do it (mainly because if you are ambushed with a partner, e.g. 1v2, then I dont think it fair on your partner).
However, if you take the illegal arguement to its conclusion then any time you fight with reduced troops OR without full arts and you lose a battle then it is stage then it is just lunacy.
As a necro at my level, even when travelling with full troops and full arts if I am ambushed, because my troops are slow, I have almost no chance of winning because my main stacks can always be killed before I get a turn.
I intentionally do not use raise. Not because I am trying to lose on purpose but because it makes no difference and I dont want to give my ambusher any more xp and/or skill points than I have to.
The other factor of this is that at level 6+ if you travel then it is almost always because you want to either do a MQ or go and buy an art from a facility. Why would you want to waste more time than you absolutely have to on an ambush?
One final reason why people travel with 1 troop is that if they travel and dont want to sit beside their computer for the whole journey then they can be pretty sure that they will be killed before the computer marks you as afk and gives you -2 luck. |
As a necro at my level, even when travelling with full troops and full arts if I am ambushed, because my troops are slow, I have almost no chance of winning because my main stacks can always be killed before I get a turn.
I'd say that's a big problem for any necromancer. I used to wear full arts while travelling but with little effect. Almost always I got beaten so I stopped wasting my arts. Winning was only possible if I got ambushed by poorly playing wizard or another necro assuming I had my equips on and they didn't. It's pretty frustrating to see your army get owned before they even have a chance to move. So I don't think that it's illegal to travel with one unit or none at all. If you lose anyway, how can it be staged? Especially if you have no idea if there's going to be a fight or not.
The rule probably applies only to player organised combats like 2vs2 or 3vs3 and letting other players win so they get the exp. |
Hey, hey, people!
I didn't mean to start a flame war here too. I just stated _facts_. In my opinion "1 unit travellers" should not be (as they are not) punished. Killing a 1 unit guy is still better than waiting for an AFK victim. |
I agree. The game system allows such troops arrangement so I don't think anyone should be punished for that considering the fact that such option allows little or none abuse possibilities.
However I think it would be beneficial for everybody if rules were more clear on that. Perhaps admins could make some amendments to the rules that would clearly state their opinion. |
