| Author | poison is bugged! |
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faction skill points should lower any kind of damage recieved from that faction .
but it does not lower poison damage !
i ,with 3 demon fs ,received the same damage from mass poison casted by demon as other guy who had 0 demon fs |
| because poison is a debuff, not a direct damaging spell |
| if necro..the poison are not working |
because poison is a debuff, not a direct damaging spell
Come on now. If you don't have a good explanation, then don't reply. |
| it is so |
First of all, it is not a "debuff" spell, unless by debuffing you mean reducing enemy stack size so that it inflicts less damage, in which case every damaging spell is a debuff spell.
Second, the exact wording of this damage reduction feature in the Help section is,
"...every skill level decreases the damage dealt by that faction to you by 3%;
unique racial abilities."
There's nothing in there that says "direct damage". And I'm not even sure what "direct damage" means. You cast a spell, and as the result your enemy suffers damage over an extended amount of time. That seems pretty direct to me. Maybe you mean "instantaneous damage", in which case they should say so in the Help section.
Sometimes, a bug really is a bug. |
and when its not, its not
by debuff i mean negative effect inflicting spell/ability, and its just like any other dark magic spells, when the stack got poisoned, it takes damage over the duration (and that seems indirectly to me), just as when a stack got weakened, it does reduced damage over the duration
and dont count on help section fully |
dont count on help section fully
Count on your weird, illogical explanation instead?
Please, don't make up things just to justify how you think things should work. |
| does it inflict a negative effect? - yes, you can look it up by CTRL-clicking twice, how was my explanation illogical? |
| You are destroying what's left of your credibility. |
no, i think Straws is right here.
it isn't a damage thing, it is more of an effect. i don't think the resistance would count for it |
| yes straws is right poison has a effect.in each turn the victim loose some hp.and its depends on not only the faction skill also the spell power.and please post your battle id to concrete your question. |
| Poison is a debuff like Straws had mentioned. Go look it up what debuff means in online gaming wiki :) |
Im wondering how come there is no echantment to improve debuff spells...
That's another poison 'bug or most likely lack of content for poison. |
Hi
There are a few issues with poison, but I did not realise this one. This is handy player knowledge.
Poison is earth damage yet Elemental Call does not work with the poison spell.
As Magic Punch is not elemental damage, does this have the same problem as the poison spell?
Cheers |
Poison is a debuff. The Caster imbues the state of Poisoned on the victim, not damage.
The Spell does damage, not the hero. Thus Poison's damage is affected by Magic resist, Earth resist, but not Faction level. It's the source of the damage that is the point here.
The source of the damage is not the hero, the source of the damage is the Poisoned state. |
Oh my God. You guys need me to define "debuff" for you?
Debuff means to reduce the offensive or defensive capabilities of opponent (without actually doing damage). In "online gaming" term, it's an effect that hampers the target in some way.
Poison is no such thing. While it's in effect, the target's defense/attack/damage/speed, what have you, is not reduced in any way.
What it does is inflict gradual damage. In "gaming" term, it's called DOT, or damage over time. "Every skill level decreases the DAMAGE dealt by that faction to you by 3%". Not instanenous damage, not direct (or whatever) damage. Just ... damage.
Here, poison also differs from the debuff spells in another way: it can be resisted by magic resistance. Therefore, there's no reason to believe it shouldn't be resisted by faction level.
I'm ok with the way poison currently works. But call it for what it is: an oversight, a bug by Admins. You can even call it "by design". But don't try to justify it by silly statements like "imbues the state of Poisoned on the victim". That's beyond ridiculous.
It's better to just say, "yeah, that's how it works; deal with it". |
by debuff i mean negative effect inflicting spell/ability
im not gonna argue with you which term should be used
can you tell me have you seen poison damage got resisted by magic resistant before? other than earth shield enchantment since it does earth damage, and there is not dark shield enchantment so you cant compare both
only thing that resists poison is magic proof, which resists other dark spells too
as far as i can tell from the help page explanation, faction level provides resistant against damage done by that particular faction, but not the effect of their debuff/status inflicting spell |
Oh my God. You guys need me to define "debuff" for you?
We are sorry about it. Guess we use a different definition from you.
WoW defines Debuff as:
A debuff is the contrary of a buff. It is an effect that while it persists hampers the target in some way. Among other effects, debuffs frequently lower attributes, hinder the effectiveness of the target's actions, or cause damage over time. |
| I believe poison is just fine the way it is now, no need to modify its rules... |
