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If i were to "play slowly" , meaning i almost let the whole "act time" pass before taking my action, on purpose, meaning for istance if the timer is 120 seconds i take my aciton when i have 20 seconds left, on all my and my turns troop, how would it be warranted?
I ask because when i face a wizard, usually they tend to kite around my guardians with their gargoyles( which is perfectly fair in my opinion, mind that), but i find it a *lot* annoying especially if they don't have mana recovery and as such they don't have a chance to win regardless of how much they kite, sometimes i end up prolonguing the battle on purpose as a sort of payback, kind of " you make me waste my time? then i make you waste your time, 10 times as much!".
Just wondering how it's treated, technically talking i'm not passing or waiting any action, i still do whatever i would do when i "play to win", i just "play to win but at a much slower rather", IE i take an action every 2 minutes instead of deciding in 2 seconds | | That counts as bad sportsmanship can thus can be reported in CaA-IiTaB. I once reported a knight I ambushed for wasting time and he ogt punished straight away. I don't know how keepers judge these things, perhaps they have some little secret tools.. who knows.. | | Even if they can't cast spells, they can still use hero attacks right? So aren't you the one with bad sportsmanship ciopo? | | can you refer me the report? | | https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1861984 | god5end, if you reread you might notice that i'm asking if *my* behaviour is allowed or not, bad sportmanship is probably a good call, actually it represent quite well, since it's an "eye for an eye" behavior which supposedly isn't good sportmanship.
The specific situation i refer is when, factored in my hero attack damage, their hero attack damage + spell damage, what HP my guardians still have, what HP their gargoyles still have, it turns out that i would win ( by hero attack alone)
EG i do a minimun of 19 damage with hero attack, i have 60 guardians.
the wizards have say, 40 gargoyles without +HP miniarts( after one-two griffins attacks plus ranged fire) 8 mana and a maximun melee damage of 14, spellpwoer such as magic arrows ( or w/e it's called, the one costing 4 mana) deal 96 damage.
I have 1560 HP, he have 800 HP, at *most*( meaning if i always do minimun damage on a 19-26 damage range) it would take me 42 hero turns to kill al the gargs
1560 - (96*2, the 2 magic arrows)/14= at *least* ( meaning if he always do maximun damage on a 11-14 damage range) it would take him 99, *99* turns of hero attacks+spells to kill my gaurdians.
The wizards don't stand a change .. at all, of winning, unless i skip half of my turns.
If such a situation arises, where it's cristally clear i would win by hero attacks alone and the wizard still kite, i am kind of "compelled" to pay back him for wasting time, i'm not asking that if *he* is warrantable of anything, kiting around is a fair game tactic, i'm asking if *i* am warrantable of anything when i waste ten times as much of his time by prolonguing the fight as much as i can care for, because since he refuses to have a *swift* dead in 1-2 guardians swing and instead choose to "long" dead by 42 hero attacks, i feel like he's a bit of a masochist and i punish him even more for choosing the slow way out of combat | woa 10 minutes to write that, me and my wall fo text mania :£
thanks hiddenshadow | uhm, the situation is a bit reversed in respect of your one, your were winning and your opponent started to delay, probably hoping you would drop out of boredom? dunno.
Put yourself in the losing side with gargs, you start to kite knowing you will still lose in the end, if i happen to be the knight i would probably delay( i wouldn't make a forum complain if you kite, is a fine tactic, but it's annoying enough if im on the losing side, guess how much it's annoying if i'm winning :| ) | Anyway running around with gargoyles and casting spells is wizards play-style, as he can't do anything else due to weak troops, when delaying turns is definitely bad sportsmanship and annoying to all.
I think even if someone knows he will lose he'll try to kill as many troops as he can to get max xp/fsp.
And btw if he threw his gargs to your guardians, it could be considered intentional loss.
For some people wiz running around is annoying, for others shrews are annoying, for others slow knights game-play is annoying,etc. But we shouldn't try to get on each others nerves, so try to play fair mate :) | And btw if he threw his gargs to your guardians, it could be considered intentional loss.
Certainly not. Nowhere you'll find that the regular use of gargoyles is to have them running around - even if in some - SOME - cases it's the best tactic. | i would regard it "intentional loss" as much as traveling with only 1 unit is an intentional loss.
I'm not here asking the moral implication of it, it is bad sportmanship ala moral sense of it, i *know* it's a wrong thing to do.
Point being, when the *losing* side prolongue a lost battle, i fell like i want to payback them, i know, bad behavior.
What i want to know is if it's punished or not, so i know if i can continue do it ( albeit me myself recognize it as a bad behavior as far as moral go) or if i should just "suck it up".
I should probably reword "annoying" as "waste of time", what annoy me is the fact that the battle will take longer than needed to achieve the same end result, not the fact they kite, i would 100% kite too if i were wizards and winning, i wouldn't if i was losing, especially if i were ambushed since i woulnd't even have the troops depleted once the ambush finished | What i want to know is if it's punished or not
In that regard, your link hiddenshadow to me doesn't constitute a case law completely pertinent, since it was the losing side purposely delaying his action.
The situation is: winning side delay is action because losing side avoid combat | @ciopo: If I were a mod, I wouldn't punish you, nor would I call it anything but funny :)
But I am not | And btw if he threw his gargs to your guardians, it could be considered intentional loss.
Well that was an exaggeration from my side :P
I understand you, but if all were doing this if they got annoyed, then all ambushes would take for ages, which would be even more annoying. Also knowing something is "immoral" and doing it just to get on his nerves (or get even on your view) is somewhat wrong. And you can't understand a wizard if you haven't played as one.
Anyway, I don't like arguing, so do what you think is right and have fun :) | for Erekose:
Im playing a wizard as an alt, and when I see I can't win, I dont run around with my gargs to annoyed others. Wizard with mana recovery, ok, others should just accept defeat. | #15
Me too. If I can't win, why delay the inevitable (after I empty my mana pool of course)? The problem is that I've encountered many players that delayed when I'd win, that's what I'm saying. So sorry for not being clear in previous posts. | Whenever I recognise I'm going to loose I pretty much commit suicide, why delay the inevitable? I want my health to go back up asap.
For ciopo:
what you're doing isn't against any rules, but it probably doesn't annoy the other player either. Clearly their time isn't very precious to them or they wouldn't behave in such a manner in the first place. | | Delaying tactic is useful. I remember when I was at early lvl 5 and still can afford to purchase skeleton upgrade. When duel facing elf I always wait at last second of turn so that the enemy will think that i will go AFK and trying to gain more exp n fsp by shoot my creature at long distance! When the elves run out of shot, It's "Killing Time"!!! |
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