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| after looking at what have been happening on rings market i think we need either more rings introduced, or new signet-ring(morale rings) facilities found. What do you guys think about that issue? |
An extra ring and def. shield factory would be nice.
But I see no issue here :) Popular arts are being bought and resold for profit - what else is new? |
| quite imbalance - it's the only ring to be used by warriors until level 10 and if the price on market is like 50% more than factory price that means its too popular in comparison to supply. I dont mind arts being resold too in general. |
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Well, a topic for extra def. shields factory has been hanging around IaS for ages, so no telling if/when we'll have new facilities.
You'd think a topic on lack of arts would attract more people lol |
i tryed to buy rings on facility about 10 times. Fes tryed with me too.
Each time the came picture - i see all rings in selling window, i put "1", and gain nothing.
Inet channel - 2 mb/s, ping to server around 300-400 ms. There some troubles before server, it up pings from 100-150 to 300-400, or even more.
My inet is not bad, but i cant buy rings in day and in night. Some times think that some players use scripts to buy items, but i cant prove it. |
| I don't think it's a matter of scripts - more like too many people trying to buy those poor 7 rings. When I try to buy them, server sort of freezes and there are no rings left :/ Kinda like buying crystals on .ru... |
i clicked before freezing of server, and saw all rings, but cant buy them =(
May be some players have IP after that troubles on the way to server. Than they can buy all rings. After all i think it is scripts. |
I experienced the "freezing" myself and I believe that is due to all the players hitting the F5 button.
Imo, increasing the slots would be fine, I don't see the need to sprout more facilities. There should be something called "scarcity" in the market, else it won't be fun :) |
its easy to check - just put some simbols in buying window (the same as enrolling to work). And look some days what'll be change.
May be there'll no so dependence on time to recieve answer from server if people will need to tipe 4-6 simbols to buy item? And, ofcourse, scripts cant work with picture. |
Problem is, script can (apparently) bypass pics. Happened on .ru with enrolling script. And if we need to type symbols to buy artifacts, some will learn to input them faster than others and there will be talk of script using again.
BTW, MoonVampire, during last tournament you were among those who sold Morale rings on market, were you not? |
eap, i sold 3 or 4 of them in that time. there were some chances of buying tham at night. But now i even cant buy 1 for me in many attempts.
as for picture - one thing is ip in area of server and another thing is to learn to type quick. 2-nd can do all of players, 1-st gives privilegues to some players.
I know that program to automatically type code can be done theoretically. But as i know it is to dificult to create such program. Far more dificult then create simple script for doing 1-3 things in browser. |
| A very good solution with facilities would be to be able to "order" items. With this I mean that people will still get item instantly if there is one available, but if there are no items available the buyer will prepay the gold for the artifact and once one becomes available it will be shipped to him. This is very easy to implement from a programming point of view and would effectively eliminate the monopoly on any kind of resource. That would also resemble real economy more than the current system. |
But as i know it is to dificult to create such program.
I suppose it is. Point is, it was done before - it can be done again. And so those who're quick at typing will be acused of script using, just as now those who're quick at clicking are acused of it :P
Another facility with high-demanded arts would be best, imho. Perhaps in one of deserted areas? ;) |
Actually there is _no_ shortage of morale rings at all!
There are more than 30 for sale at the moment. The problem is that lots of people are trying to make a good profit this way... |
| Well, no one sais there's a shortage - at least in this topic. |
Ok, I know, I only wrote my comment because some suggested an additional facility as a solution for our problem. I think it would't work because people could just continue buying up everything.
One possible easy solution would be restocking the artifact shop with rings and defender shields with a few hundred items. This intervention would break the market prices down. |
Additional facility would be good because it would give another try to buy - or divide forces of clickers (if the shifts ended at the same time)
One possible easy solution would be restocking the artifact shop with rings and defender shields with a few hundred items. This intervention would break the market prices down.
It would indeed, for some time at least.
Would be nice to see that happen. |
Concerning speed and scripts... On .ru I'm quite experienced trader. When there was a shortage in capes of magic power (they were produced on two facilities with rate about 0,6-0,9 per hour) I could get every single produced cape during a couple of hours. I could make it both from work and from home (different providers, different speed, different ping, different trace).
I can really use the mouse and the keyboard rapidly. But it was useless here, during the tournament I couldn't buy a ring.
When there is 10 people wishing for the ring and 5 rings produced, you will have your ring with approx. 50% chance. When there are 50 customers, the chance is still 10%. That means that if I try 30 times (as I actually did) then I could have about 3 rings.
Actually there is about 4% chance (1 - 0.9^30) that I will have none of those. And that really happened. So I strongly beleive that somebody is cheating here. |
One possible easy solution would be restocking the artifact shop with rings and defender shields with a few hundred items. This intervention would break the market prices down.
Actually it is only a short-term solution. Demand is too high, current production isn't enough. |
