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Authorto clan leaders that HAVE taxes
just to let you know, i was reading over the rules just then and i found this rule. please remember this.

3.15.1. Weekly clan taxes mustn't exceed 300*[character combat level] gold.
Thanks for the note.

I didn't realize that new rule was up.

A lot of clans need to take note of that. Many clans tax by labor guild lvl and not by combat lvl.
Yes, good to know.
But I think, we need more precision term.
Some clans have taxes and/or dotation.
Dotation should be included like tax.
Dotation should be included like tax.

I don't think so. Donations are gifts, hence already covered by gift rules.
So, it make questions:
What is destination (legal) of clan gold?
Why clans need gold?
Why clans need gold?

To purchase artifacts for the clan and to purchase TGI's to lend around the clan.
But the artefact is assigned to player (and player buy him) not a clan.
There are no real clan bank or depot/warehouse.
Clan buy atrs for 1 player, and he decide about rent this art.
Buying TGI, only for large clans?
i.e.
Clan with 50 members, each play weekly 1k gold (50.000 month) it takes 10 months to collect 500k (minimal price)
In fact, until/unless clan property is introduced, there is absolutely no reason to have clan treasury. %-less loans can be taken from any clan member, same for artifacts, and pretty much for TGI.

All too often clan taxes go into clan leader's pocket to boost his/her smith/enchanting skill and/or provide him/her with artifacts.

De iure clan treasury is no different from character's property - all debts are to be returned, all taken from treasury should go back into it.
De facto... well, we know how things really are :/

It's not even a loophole - it's a gateway in rules...
well, some clans use clans as a way of making sure that their members are still deticated to the clan and willing to help out
i dont really think u need to be in a clan that has tgi to be lent one anyways
some clans like our train smiths which than provide a good price for repairing items. or Enchanting. And clan registration also cost some money. There can also be tournaments in clans so price for winner.

These and other are reasons why is it useful.
just be in a clan for fun :)
@Almer about tournaments reward

3.22. Any tournaments with a prize reward, both combat and card game ones, must be approved by the Administration. The Administration will not allow multiple tournaments be hosted simultaneously, moreover, none of the custom tournaments will be held while there is an official one. The details of your future tournament must be discussed directly with a member of the Administration. Hosting tournaments without such permission will be punished with a significant penalty to the organizer.

@all
better idea is:
Admins make "character" smith/enchanter and server repair/modify players arts for gold (and time to wait for return art, and/or elements). Server may repair/modify tons of arts at one time, but only 1 from art 1 player.
for LEVY:
well, i did't mean for a debate (or lots of typing) just to point out that there is a new rule which im sure alot of people will need to take into consideration in their new taxes
I know :)
Maybe better is move this topic to Q&A.
I (not only) already asked there about benefies form clan, and what clan (and members) may do (legal). But didn't receive good answer.
taxes? who's paying taxes these days!?
i haven't paid for my windows, you are telling me to pay clan taxes :} tomorrow somebody will tell me to pay for music... phew... where is this world going?
In another forum for sure :)
Topic moved from "Clans" to "General game forum".
Sorry for asking, but why moved the topic from clan to General game forum ?/ isn't this should be there ?? ^^

happy posting ^^
^.^ a smart clan owner wouldnt make tax official though still enforce it ^>^ wouldnt be against rule and they could make it wutever they want and it would be paid aslong as it isnt over 30% the payers wealth....


(This is a random loop hole.... it wouldnt be a clan tax it would be payment for services or wutever they want to call it XD)
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