| Author | Dark Elves faction topic |
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i like the lizard's upgrade.
assault is a very good ability.
lizard's weakness was their size: difficult to reach what you want.
now their large creature ability will become useful, because it give them more possible targets for their assaults :)
i think lizard assaillants will deal huge damages with splitted stacks of 1 shrews. |
| What does assault do? |
for DonJazz:
https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=32 |
| what talent should de take? |
For hanfar:
Battle De take basic offense.
Magic De take Elemental call Basic eruduction |
for hanfar:
At level 5 with my DE char, I used to switch between basic offense and basic fortune. It worked well enough for me. Erudition is good too. Elemental call is sort of waste at that level IMO. |
| can anyone tell me which one is better, battle fury or cold blade? |
| for a DE it would be cold balde. for a demon, since they have more units, batte fury. if i were you i would go cold blade. |
1. multi-function type
Basic offense + Basic fortune + Battle fury
or Basic leadership + Rally
2. Hard DEF target
Basic offense + Basic fortune + Cold blade
3. Rush type
Basic offense + Basic fortune + Tactics
4. When wear amulet of luck
Basic offense + Basic fortune + Basic erudition
DE must change talent to deal different kind of situation. |
DE must change talent to deal different kind of situation.
Very true indeed. It is important to analyse the kind of battle you will fight and then choose talent appropriately. of course, the differnt choices can be more easily made at later levels when more talent points are available. |
for Karsot: what is this i don't get the piont
for Karsot: |
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4. When wear amulet of luck
Basic offense + Basic erudition + Battle fury(or Cold blade, or Tactics) |
i think battle fury is better than cold blade, at least at low levels.
battle fury: +1 dmg
cold blade: +15% dmg.
to have the equivalent of battle fury with cold blade, you need to have a creature with 7 dmg.
if it's > than 7, cold blade is better, if it's inferior, battle fury is better.
for poisoners, rogues, minos battles fury is better than cold blade.
for lizard, hydras...cold blade is better.
i think at level6,7 battle fury is the best (only lizards are better with cold blade)
from level8, cold blade becomes better. |
Battle fury is better for lizard knight, because lizard charge can reduce enemy's DEF, so more damage can make more lethality. On the other hand, minos and rogue have no facility to reduce enemy's DEF, they are not easy to deal high DEF target only if offset by luckly attack. But remember, luckly chance for each unit is equality. Nevertheless, battle fury is still good when confront low DEF target. In such situation, battle fury is good for lizard knight.
I found some DE player don't like let their lizard knight run and charge when they have space. Stand and attack can not prompt lizard knight become more danger. |
sorry for miss some sentences
In order to deal with high DEF target, cold blade is better for minos and rogue than battle fury. |
In order to deal with high DEF target, cold blade is better for minos and rogue than battle fury.
why?
i mean, if we look at what happends with cold blade or with battle fury, we have this:
10 rogues 5-7 dmg, 10 att, VS units with 10 def.
damages: 50-70 (5-7*10)
with basic offense, battle fury, it's 66-88: (6-8*10)*1.1
with basic offense, cold blade it's 63.25-88.55: (5-7*10)*1.1*1.15
Vs units with 20 def:
damages: 33.33-46.66 (5-7)*10/1.5
with basic offense, battle fury, it's 44-58.66: (6-8*10)*1.1/1.5
with basic offense, cold blade it's 42.16-59.03: (5-7*10)*1.1*1.15/1.5
or maybe +15% damages of cold blade are calculated by an other way? if it's it i would like to have the formula. |
| maybe, since cold blade does water elemental damage, it is not affected by enemy defense, but by enemy's resistance against water |
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ok, then where is applied cold blade's damages in formula?
maybe+15% of base damages?
it would give us something like it:
10 rogues 5-7 dmg, 10 att, VS units with 20 def.
base damages=50to70, cold blade deals +15% of 50to70: +7.5to10.5 dmg.
then we would have this:
with basic offense, battle fury: 44 to 58.66: (6to8*10)*1.1/1.5
with basic offense, cold blade: :44.16 to 61.83: ((5to7*10)*1.1/1.5)+7.5to10.5 from cold blade.
and cold blade would be better against high defs.
but against low defs, it would be weaker: for exemple 10 rogues 15 att VS units with 5 def.
with basic offense, battle fury: 99to132: (6to8*10)*1.1*1.5
with basic offense, cold blade: 90to126: ((5to7*10)*1.1*1.5)+7.5to10.5 from cold blade.
but until we don't know ecacty how cold blade works, i will keep prefer battle fury at level6-7, cold blade for level8+ with hydras. |
| i figuered out that at lvl 12 we best assault+twilight dragon+mino soldiers and other=massive smackdown |
