| Author | New strategy against elves |
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As a Lvl 4 necro, I usually just go ahead and attack the archers with my ghosts and zombies.
But instead of that, what if I let all of my troops stay back, and let the archers use up all their arrows on me? I can defend (that raises my defense by 30%). If the enemy kills my ghosts, I won't resurrect them until the archers have finished all their arrows on my zombies. Then, I can resurrect my ghosts and kill them all.
What do you think, will it work? |
have you tried it?
they might have killed you before you can resurrect and before the arrows used up |
| nope, not tried it yet. Will do so soon. Let's see... |
it works, as long as ye stay out of range (6 squares, there is no problem in doing that
however, ye are counting on the elf to not move forward to be in short range, then it will probably not work |
| It works, if the elf player wasted all arrows on out of range zombies. however if the elf player knows your intent, they might hold the shots, and both side end up waiting and waiting... anyway it should work on more impatient elves. |
I believe Saph is right . Being a former lvl 4 Necro myself , withstanding the elves' punishment of double shot is impossible . Even if you did hold back your revives , his FKs have a lot of ini , enabling them to wipe out your skeletons and zombies with the aid of any remaining arrows as well as fairies .
My advice would be , don't duel with elves at levels 3-4 . Wait till your high initiative ghosts have an offensive partner that can keep up with them ; vampires :) That way , you have an extra stack with which to attack and cover your forces with . Furthermore , by lvl 5 , you would also have skeletal archers , giving your offensive troops 'artillery support' . That way , now you have 3 offensive elements at lvl 5 .
When you're lvl 5-7 , feel free to own any faction :) But please be aware of demons with a lot of imps/spawns , as they can take away what makes you powerful ; Revive Dead . |
I just used my strategy, and won!!
Here's the game:
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=2902712 |
| I think I could have done even better if I had split my zombies into many little stacks of 1 each. Those stacks could have guarded my ghost, and since the ghost is incorporeal, it wouldn't be blocked by the zombies. My skeletons died too fast, and were completely useless here. |
5,
"waiting and waiting" won't work, because necros have much more hp than elves. I would just take out all their troops with hero shots.
6,
Good advice, I agree Lvl 5 will be awesome.
Of course, there are still a lot of problems to be ironed out with this strategy. What if the elf tries to move into close range early (as Mirz said)? etc. |
Another game I just won:
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=2903975 |
| very well played |
the only way for necro to win is to
stay back until archers have no shots .
it is a waste of time but you win.
i become lvl 6 with this tactic , that i start it from june
ask about it elvieloka |
| fool me once ect applies her ;) |
| actually this strategy works more often than just charging the elf. The fact is, there is a 50 50 chance of elf wasting a shot when attacking ur ghosts. Also, zombuies are tanks, and once they get too low, u can raise them. Therefore, unless elf is really really lucky, and keeps on killing ur ghosts w/ archers, u should be able to tough out the 12 shots, and slaughter they're weak forest keepers. One problem with this is them rushing w/ keepers. In that case, its pure luck lol, depending on who hits first and wheter keepers misses or not. |
7.
u beat that elf cause he played very dumb. i mean who would shoot 1 zomb with 9 elven bowmen in close range? and he made a-lot of other mistakes. like after u raised ur ghosts it was better for him to wait with his keepers and take off the misses with his bowmen and hero first.
if u were playing vs me u wouldnt have won.
6.
elfs still beat necros on level 5 and 6 |
1
and you have stratage against me?
I 4 lvl - Knight: 4 (162.68) +117.3
Attack: +6
Defence: +2
With no arts. |
15,
I have tried this strategy against 3 more elves, and it has worked against them all. Here:
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470908760
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470913985
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470916564
Granted, all of them might have made some mistakes here and there. But on the whole, I think this is a strategy that works.
16,
Don't have any specific strategy against knights; just 2 things to remember:
(a) Don't completely kill any stacks, because that enrages swordsmen and they grow stronger (see swordsmen's special ability Rage). Weaken all the stacks first, then finish off the swordsmen, and THEN, kill the remaining enemies.
(b) Keep units apart to avoid volley.
I have not tried any "staying back and defending" strategy yet... |
| i am not an elf, but isn't targetting the zombies stupid ? I mean u wait anyway and especially when ur elves are split int 3,4,4 as in at least one of this battle u will hit twice at least every round, ok granted u do less dmg with that spread but still once ghosts are down to 6-4 u can target something else anyway, and if i bring the hero atk into that u hit even more often. So i don't get why most of those guys go for golems. Fk can finsih them off especially if u make some small stacks to sac them. |
| zombies i meant of course |
emm? may be someone can against your New strategy with elves..
likes me...
08-29-08 20:43: kalei[4] vs ChristBABI[4]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470917365
so.. i thing defense is a good.. but late. do it if the elves always shoot u.
oke :) nice game... nice strategy.. |
