| Author | Someone is buying all mercury!!! |
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lol these player will be even more happy if u beg them to stop lol.
anyway the games rules doesn't forbid her from doing so and she seems to be happy about it so let her be.
thrust me that she and others will only stop if some rules is being implemented to prevent this problem. |
why should she stop that? it's legal. supply and demand, simple as that. try to get mercury cheaper from her without the market.
i would get bored when going to labs every hour, but everyone defines fun in this game in another way. :) |
hmm... all of this mercury crisis makes me think that we should gather all players who feel sick about this and make a special clan.
This clan will buy resources from it's member with slightly higher price than Machining / Production. And then, when there is a resource crisis like this one, the clan will sell it's resources to it's member with a reasonable price.
eg:
Member buy Mercury from Lab for 369 golds (at BG) or 371 golds(at GC).
Clan will buy mercury from it's member for 376 golds.
And if in the future, crisis like this happen again... clan will sell to it's member for 377 Golds... much cheaper than current market price (which is > 390 golds/ea). But the resources are forbidden to be sell in the market. Those are for personal use only (upgrading castle or buying new arts). Member who sells this resources to market will be evicted and black listed.
I believe...this clan, will be able to fight individual trader who likes to gain unreasonable profit without concerning about other people by acting as a resource buffer.
Just an idea =)
I don't know if this will break any rule or not. So far, I don't see any rule forbid this kind of activity though. But maybe someone who has more experience than me can give advice =) |
I believe...this clan, will be able to fight individual trader who likes to gain unreasonable profit without concerning about other people by acting as a resource buffer.
I don't believe so - you're simply too few, compared to general number of players :) but if I may add my 2 gold - such a clan wouldn't break any rules. That is, if I quolify as an expirienced person :P |
| lol, if such clan exist, this game is getting closer to the real world...that clan would be like IMF or some sort, lol.... |
lol...
Like I said before, the clan will only sell to it's members. Not to all players. So, it will be limited, and exclusive to it's member only. Suppose it is only have 20 members, so be it ;p
Of course you are an experience person my friend =)
And yeah.. more realistic to the real world.
Whether it is IMF, G8 or something like that... lol =) |
| Some merchants communicate closely as a Merchant's Guild to conspire against the general public. It can't get more real than that. |
| it's true. i heard they put a spy in the Epresses entourage... |
a spy?? lol.... xD
Keep in mind, that this idea actually can be implemented on existing clan.
Clan can provide resource buffer to it's member as an additional 'features' beside TGI rent, art repair or enchant =) |
| Mercury is REALLY need.I check out.Many production site cant work coz there is no mercury. |
the real problem is that a kind of some poor society has been formed within the game. it only murmurs against high prices, APs, game rules... always somebody obstructs them to play... but getting to work and making some money instead is out of the question. what we need is to develop a middle class of real consumers. they go to the market -> buy from the market -> go out of the market -> fight with arts -> make money -> have fun.
french revolution started because of a bunch of sluggards and we know what good came out of it. they destroyed the aristocracy, ruined the country and bring it's progress back with decades. you don't want to put an effort and earn something? well, socialism is in North Korea. go there and tell Kim Ir-Sen you want a cheap mercury. |
| ^^ you're telling the other people to go to work, but why don't you speculators start first. You're not adding "plus value" to mercury, you are just buying it at a price and selling it at a higher one. If you're so fond of the free market, you know that monopolies shouldn't exist and speculation leads to stupid bubbles(like the subprime). |
french revolution started because of a bunch of sluggards and we know what good came out of it. they destroyed the aristocracy, ruined the country and bring it's progress back with decades
why are you talking about french revolution in this topic?
and how can you say that it was bad?
revolution of year 1789 was the best thing that never happened to my country: freedom of low classes :)
well, socialism is in North Korea. go there and tell Kim Ir-Sen you want a cheap mercury.
again, what do you have against socialism?
in my country, about 50% of population votes for socialism (and i'm one of them)
what we need is to develop a middle class of real consumers. they go to the market -> buy from the market -> go out of the market -> fight with arts -> make money -> have fun.
wrong.
there is only one problem in this game: we need to stop monopolizers.
the economical system of lords of war and money, wanted by designers of this game is this one:
players enroll to the mining facilities ->buy to the facilities ->sell ressources to machining facilities (nickel works...)->enroll on machining facilities -> buy ressources from machining facilities (nickel, magic powder...)-> sell to production facilities-> enroll at production facilities -> produce and buy arts.
this system could be very good...but monopolizers breaks this system by creating a shortage of ressources.
because of monopolizers the system is like this:
players can't buy ressources from mining sites -> they can't sell ressources to machining facilities ->they can't enroll on machining sites because they are out of ressources ->they can't buy from machining sites -> they can't sell ressources to production sites -> they can't enroll at production sites -> shortage of arts ->they complain about AP rules.
find a way to stop monopolizers, and the game economy will work very well by itself. |
right on mrwhite.
Most of us definitely do not mind working for the cash but we definitely do not want some of it being taken away by people who happen to have a connection (ping)advantage which enables them to flashbuy the mercury before others who happen to have bad ping.
I'm actually quite well-off despite not being in the mercury monopolizing game but I should say it would be better if the monopolizers are not there in the first place. All they did was benefit themselves at our expense. |
thumbs up to the admin who tried to top up the shortage of common mineral in the empire. Seems all mineral are being top up but as usual mercury is being snatch up once being top up.
Anyway is a good attempt and hope that the situation will get better in time. |
revolution of year 1789 was the best thing that never happened to my country:
lol, trust me pal, it was the best thing that "never happened to your country" :D |
195,
Like I said in other threads, it is not working if Admin only top up mercury a little bit because players will be able to drain them in no time.
Top up like 900,000 mercury. No one will be able to drain it. And psychologically this will prevent players to buy them for selling in market. I mean, come on... if you see that there are 900,000 Mercuries... would you still buying and hoping for profit through market by selling 500 mercuries ?
I think most players will buy only for their own safety stock (remember: most players don't have much money to spend on mercury alone). After the economic is balanced, Admin can reduce the quantity.
I know this is not reflect real life economy... but this is a game, and it doesn't have to be perfect in economic. We suppose to fight, not waiting at the labs every hour and pressing F5 to refresh =) |
| I doubt that mercury has been refilled, because facility demand is still greater than 500. |
197,
i totally agree with you but before the admin can come out with something to make the situation more even for all players, top up is the next best thing.
thats why i still feel that players should be given the option to choose wether to be paid in gold or mineral in the factory, then if those who are lazy they can always buy it from the market for a higher price. |
| LOL, this is getting even more funny...you guys are screaming about lacking of resources and blaming those "monopolizers". Don't you realize how easy for admin to do some simple clicks juz to refill those resources in a huge amount so that ervybody can have cheap resources? but the fact is they did not do it and they won't. It is meant to be the way it is now. We have free market here, nothing you can do about that. Don't suggest to compare it with the real world, this is a fantasy world. So have it your way and play along. Monney talks here. If you don't like it, well your choice...Go ahead and boycott those "monopolizers". I, myself, am against those monopolizers, but still i can't blame them for having a better connection so that they can grab more resources than i do. Well, its their advantage, guess i have to accept that. |
