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Author[HWM radio] Interview at 8pm.. Part 2.. Sort of. :)
I don't have any questions.
Please review your post #34.


I'm pointing out truths. Those are rhetorical questions: I know the unfortunate answers.

Calm down your horses, dear Sir
It's not me lambasting on the forum, insulting or demeaning anyone.

Where's is the navi that could take a joke, and where did you bury him?

So all this forum trashing is because of what is written on A&D Clan Profile?
Might seem a minor issue to you. But I fought 7 years for it. I ask but respect for it.
It was interesting as a result of this to re-read those goals with more scrutiny then i had previous - for ease I have put them below

We will never forget the fond memories of our previous homeland and its destruction. It will forever be etched in our minds and fabled stories will be passed down from one generation to the next.

We may be new inhabitants in a strange land, but true to the nature of an Angels & Demons member, we will not only adapt, but thrive in our new surroundings.

The primary objective and purpose of our MC remain unchanged - to make Angels & Demons MC an integral part of the total LordsWM gaming experience. We will not be a MC that will sit idly by. We will create our own activities and events to fill our members' lives with never-ending fun and enjoyment.

Angels & Demons is more than just a war clan. We are a closely-knit family of brothers and sisters. When war dawns upon us, we shall go forth into battles as one united force, and slay all that stands in our way.

Members can expect regular friendly competitions, tournaments, team events, contests, etc. These will build up our clan spirit, foster strong bonds and friendships and prepare the warriors in us well in times of war.

We will play and have fun like little Angels in peace time, and fight like Demons possessed in war, like there's no tomorrow !

We shall not be a MC that boasts about our past glories and achievements, nor be contented with what we have achieved. True respect and recognition are spoken about and bestowed upon by others, not by ourselves. We will not let up on our never-ending quest of progress and growth, all the time displaying humility in the face of hostility.

Greatness is not measured by selfishness, but selflessness.

Together, in one spirit, we shall be the beacon of light and the role model for other MCs to aspire to. We will continue to push the envelope and be at the forefront of revolution and innovation.
I respect Syrian. I even like Syrian. I always did!

I also believe these goals are reflective of the clan as a whole, and don't see any need to change them.
To be I can see why some of those statements do not run true to events of today - others are accurate. I can see how someone who helped start it all and was very proud of those words and that triumph against adversity may be annoyed by some of the rhetoric used.

However, I think outside of that, ie for the regular person who did not get involved in that part, does it really matter that much?

I think this whole discussion has had one real benefit. Surely no one can be of doubt as to each clans position - independent of these goals.

We will play and have fun like little Angels in peace time, and fight like Demons possessed in war, like there's no tomorrow !

This I think stands and seems fair

Some of the other aspects are perhaps less true about pushing the envelope and regular team events etc - though to be honest - I don't think they are actually that achievable or the thirst for them from most of us. Events take up too much time as it is!
I see how it can be seen as untrue/misleading/false whatever but most will just know it as being outdated. And any chronicler can edit it in order to make it a better fit with current ideology of the clan.
I see how it can be seen as untrue/misleading/false whatever but most will just know it as being outdated. And any chronicler can edit it in order to make it a better fit with current ideology of the clan.
Exactly. Times change, one must adapt. That should be done.


I respect Syrian. I even like Syrian. I always did!
You killed me. Twice! Go #%$& yourself. With all my love, my dearest nemesis :)

Note to mods: "#%$&" stands for "love".
:))
This is a fantasy game, where we had fun for many many years.

I don't think anything needs to be changed on the clan profile. Those statements are general, uplifting rally cries to good mood and fun inducing, like in many other clans. Nobody expects a mathematics theorem on their clan page.
This is a fantasy game for people to have fun and enjoy playing with others.
this is a fantasy game true, but so is the message on your clan profile :p
Since you want it to be treated like a fantasy too, everything is fair including the laugh i had when i read "Together, in one spirit, we shall be the beacon of light and the role model for other MCs to aspire to. We will continue to push the envelope and be at the forefront of revolution and innovation."

:D
Where is the love? Can't we all just get along? :D
It's ok to not believe, and even laugh VV. It's alright...

I wrote the descriptions for all tribal set artifacts, and Arctic made it official text of the game.

Check this out: https://www.lordswm.com/art_info.php?id=sv_weap

This mace is forged on the sacred burial place of tribal warlords, it carries the angered spirits of past generations within. Once grip at the mace makes the wearer feel like taking life, following the call of its impatient jolts in the arm. With every strike it gives, it unleashes the fury of ancestors` haunted shadows that no steel or magic armor has yet been made to counter.

You can laugh about that too. I didn't see any fury of ancestors unleashed in combat or jolting in the arms of the hero... but Arctic made it part of the official game description nevertheless...
Well, I suppose that... once one starts playing a fantasy game... and ends up living in a fantasy world... that's a natural process?
Where is the love? Can't we all just get along? :D
You just crack me up :D
@Modi, agreed :(. It's sad and a little disappointing to see so much stuff being thrown around.
A leader is a follower
A leader who leads himself first and leads others
A leader should be a listener..

when 1 of above 3 things fails, problem starts...
think this what happened exactly :(
I was here :)
Nobody expects a mathematics theorem on their clan page.
I agreed, but then clan members thought it would be fun to share their love of maths :D Almost everyone is already a chronicler (crazy little cats) and we are going to be sharing beautiful maths theorems there. Next week, different topic. Check our clan page. Thanks for the idea =)
Nobody expects a mathematics theorem on their clan page.
oh no see what you've done ... nobody will understand efl clan page next week anymore....

I was here :)
does this mean that .ru people are taking an interest in this .com brawl lol...

and well seeing as Milesteg already copy pasted the clan description here...
it is sorta true that it sounds empty when compared to now, even though it was true when before merge and just after merge...
but if an update can solve like half the argument here then why not just update it ....
This mace is forged on the sacred burial place of tribal warlords, it carries the angered spirits of past generations within. Once grip at the mace makes the wearer feel like taking life, following the call of its impatient jolts in the arm. With every strike it gives, it unleashes the fury of ancestors` haunted shadows that no steel or magic armor has yet been made to counter.

You can laugh about that too. I didn't see any fury of ancestors unleashed in combat or jolting in the arms of the hero... but Arctic made it part of the official game description nevertheless...


I guess i assumed you were brighter than that. How are the two things comparable? One description is used mainly players who are potential applicants and new recruits into the clan. Other is part of the game itself, and the description is merely following the lore. In the end, a battle is just about mathematical formulae and action and movement coordinates. Does it really matter if i use sharpshooter to shoot or cyclops? In the end, everyone knows it is just there to give it some flavor.
it is sorta true that it sounds empty when compared to now, even though it was true when before merge and just after merge...
Yeah, exactly.
I support your initiative, Jedi. I have seen innumerable topics in this forums where, sooner or later, somebody comes and trashes A&D. You should not listen to it in a silent mood. They always do it, most of time in "polite" ways. This doesn't change the fact that they, in fact, insulted you or A&D in a way or another, but that "politeness" is always a counter argument that they use when somebody rises to confront.

"He only expressed his opinion" "Don't turn this personal"

Haha. Like, they rise such topics, but you can't answer. Cool.

I have told you, I have seen this innumerable times.
This topic is long since last update and considered obsolete for further discussions.

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