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AuthorHow weak knight is?
Yeah CreatorOfWidows = CRoW


yeah but if want to be competitive you will need DU at lvl 13 no matter what faction you are. But Skarbonke won MT 3 at level 12. A level without DU.

Knight is in no way weak, also in our home made tournement we held at level 14 in November December knight had a decent score and I would not call them under powered
may be u just need to change ur playing style! Try something different....
Unlike factions like elf, barbarian and demons, knights have lot of options to choose. so first spend sometime trying those. the most important don't care about losing! :)
plz dont show example of tournaments, there is a huge difference of players in level 15.

I know that, but the one complaining about the weakness of knight is not a new lvl 15 player, but a virtual lvl 16 player who has 3 achievements in pvp, that makes me a little confused: how did he get the conclusion that knight is the WEAKEST faction?

If the minor tournament in lvl 15 is unbalanced, then pvp in TG is even more unbalanced.

1. Knight 10 racial (min ap) vs Elf (no arts) 9 racial - 0 chances
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=33418918


It's not true ><
I was wearing a reprisal sword, medal of bravery and galoshes of bettle (or defender shield, cannot remember well)
For some reason a few people are complaining that knights are weak at 12,13.
That is simply untrue.

4th minor tournament, level 12:
2 nights are tied for 3rd place with 17 wins.
4th minor tournament, level 13:
CreatorOfWindows won with perfect 20 wins.
Another knight is tied for 4th with 17 wins.

3rd minor tournament, level 12:
A knight won with 19 wins, 2 wins more than 2nd place.
3rd minor tournament, level 13:
A knight is tied for 3rd with 18 wins.

Similar things can be said about other minor tournaments. Knights do very well in pvp.
The only weak point i found for knight is when doing TG

Otherwise no more..
This universality often grants them victory in a majority of fights; however it requires a strategic mind. If you are a tactician by nature and prefer shrewdness and acute mind to brute force, then become a knight.


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cheers
4th minor tournament, level 12:
2 nights are tied for 3rd place with 17 wins.

i checked ther profiles, they are multi faction players and packed with good faction resistance.
i am not taking CREDITS away from them, but i believe faction resistance helped them a great deal

4th minor tournament, level 13:
CreatorOfWindows won with perfect 20 wins.
Another knight is tied for 4th with 17 wins.

i heard that he had diamond upgrade, hard to compare in this case too.

All i am trying to do or talking about is pure knight with no faction resistance vs other factions.

also i made this comparison to explain, not to offend or degrade those achievers.
i checked ther profiles, they are multi faction players and packed with good faction resistance.
i heard that he had diamond upgrade, hard to compare in this case too.
and you think other players in top 10 were somehow different?
All of them, all the races, build up their characters as much as they can.
Knights were not competing against substandard elfs and wizards and the rest.
They were all pumped up to the max and knights showed they can win plenty.

i heard that he had diamond upgrade, hard to compare in this case too.


many, many pvp lovers have diamond upgrades @ lvl 13
and you think other players in top 10 were somehow different?
Grrrrrr.....
you mis-understanding me again.
i am not talking about other faction here or ther achievements.

i feel, a pure knight is weak compare to other faction .
i feel, a pure knight is weak compare to other faction
and I feel you are wrong.
You know... maybe knight isn't "weak" at all (imo they are great, holy knight slaughters me). Maybe it's just that players who complain about them are bad pvp players, that's all :)

1. Knight 10 racial (min ap) vs Elf (no arts) 9 racial - 0 chances
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=33418918

Elfmoon is FL 10
All i am trying to do or talking about is pure knight with no faction resistance vs other factions.

also i made this comparison to explain, not to offend or degrade those achievers.


Where do you find such player? :o The original poster even has this stat and still he's complaining =.=

Knight: 10 (7935.67) +1664.3
Necromancer: 5 (280.08) +219.9
Wizard: 5 (280.34) +219.7
Elf: 5 (280.13) +219.9
Barbarian: 5 (280.08) +219.9
Dark elf: 5 (280.43) +219.6
Demon: 5 (323.96) +176.0
the knights swordsman are over powered when u got no ranged or large damage troops. im a necro and my vamps have trouble with the knights 1 unit unlock. i dont know about high as levels but early on knight is far to agrivating to fight alone.
in my opinion, i never saw a knight using the Concentration Talent before. If they did, it would seem to help ALOT - -..but..too bad my muti isnt as high lvl to get that talent yet or else I would use it.... it would be cool to see one try...

but imo, knights are strong, especially in the cg battles i've observed so far
I know that, but the one complaining about the weakness of knight is not a new lvl 15 player, but a virtual lvl 16 player who has 3 achievements in pvp, that makes me a little confused: how did he get the conclusion that knight is the WEAKEST faction?

I am sorry I misunderstood, completely agree taht you cannot conclude anything on level 15 MT

The main difference is that level 15 is a broken level on .com because of virtual level 16-17
But it is actually it is hard to conclude anything of MT on the higher levels, since there is few participant, so very strong players or very weak players and anti faction builders can affect the result significant. This mean the statistic uncertainty is very high.

.....................

What I know after playing a lot of PvP is that people focus on their own faction weakness and other factions strength.

Thats why youy rarely here that people are saying taht there own faction is owerpowered and VERY often here they are saying that others are to strong.


Like the creator and another "level 15" (Should be level 16-17) saying this

pff - knight is the strongest faction. It feels comfortable for almost battles in LWM world(especially PvP and events).

These statements seems absurd to me especially when it is from people with such an unfair advantages against new level 15 players.
I haven't read such NONSENSE for a long time.
Author is noob! If you don't like knights - don't play them.
As for elf - the knight is almost impossible to win at levels 12 and 13.
anyone seen knight with concentration b4?

pls link it.. i woud like to see it to confirm my opinions about knights. cause if people didnt use that talent b4, it would mean a strategy unused b4. (which would be perfect perfect eprfect for knights)
dont knights need 66 talent points for that? which is level 16
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