| Author | How weak knight is? |
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Which faction is the weakest in PvP? of course knight.. unfortunately.
To win knight must combine wth talents to win wth each faction. Ther is no universal setting which can give win wth just and only 3 factions. If I take one setting then I can win only wth max 2 faction and lose the rest 4 battles wth other factions. All others faction can play in 1 setting and can win with everyone but no knights.
I am talking there if player have similar stats.
So lets see example wth no combine talents:
1. Knight 10 racial (min ap) vs Elf (no arts) 9 racial - 0 chances
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=33418918
2. Knight 10 racial (medium ap) vs Demon 9 racial (medium ap but less)
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=33472932
Like every1 can see there my opponents had worse stats so what could be if i play wth player wth the same stats???
Everyone think Knight = good def. But this is untruth. Units have similar def like others units on the same tier and similar HP. But knight is slow and have really low dmg (only guardian can kill all enemy stack or a lot of stack).
Knight should be stronger or should have more def. Who play knight understand me.
This topic is for players lvl 12+ |
| 12+ or not the fact that knight needs talent +skill makes them more challenging to play..if you want easy win turn DE -.- |
Knight is strong enough for level 12-14 dunno about level 15 (But that level is so hopeless unbalanced so knight strength is the least of level 15 problem)
Duels always have some rock-paper-scisor over it, but knight is not weaker than others
With DU they are maybe the strongest on level 13, and is powerfull on both level 12 and 14
2x2 Is very well balanced on level 12-14 for all faction (maybe demon is a little to weak) So I suggest playing that |
| knight not weak |
PVP in TG is highly unbalanced so it's not a very good example to prove your point.
Knight is definitely not the best faction in pvp, however I don't see how knight could be the weakest
https://www.lordswm.com/tournaments_hist.php?tour=57&tid=707
3 knights in top 8, hmm... |
http://www.heroeswm.ru/tournaments_hist.php?tour=118&tid=1419
the winner is knight lol... |
| It's interesting to me that Knight is definitely not weak, but some knight players love monitoring and playing in anti-faction style and complaining about the luck. I'm just curious about the reason why it happens :) |
https://www.lordswm.com/tournaments_hist.php?tour=57&tid=707
3 knights in top 8, hmm...
Cannot use results from level 15 minor
As I said it is unbalanced, with victuals level 16 and level 17.
Of the 8 the lowest one is top 18 and he have a uniqe immgae that also gives 1 stat point more
Don't know how much exp they had at the point of tourny but nopw the lowest of the 8 has 53645239 exp thats more than twicew what a new level 15 player has. And the one of the 8 with the most have 82944664 more than 3 times the amount of a new level 15 player.
But back to topic. Knight is in no way weak in general but have some faction they have a hard time defeating like anybody else |
| Wow what a tradgic topic. I wouldn't expect this from somebody with a good set of resistances and knight 10 mate... |
This link took some finding by the way so appreciate it! I'm sure you will find some fault with it no doubt, most likely due to slightly differing AP, this was a crushing defeat for china and kisko.
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=15126469<=-1 |
It's interesting to me that Knight is definitely not weak, but some knight players love monitoring and playing in anti-faction style and complaining about the luck. I'm just curious about the reason why it happens :)
Indeed |
| I think holy knights are very strong. |
Thief ambush = PvP? Since when?
You have no Group battle or CG for the last FIVE pages (and possibly more!!!) of your combat log.
Please let "TRUE" PvPer comment about the effectiveness of knight in PvP... not a PvEr like you.
You would not be faction 10 if knight was horrible at PvE (hunt, MG, Thief). |
i totally agree with LORD_Destruktor. knights are weak in level 12 and 13.
i have tried CG against DE, wiz, elf, demon and barb. and found that if knights dont have correct talents against some factions, we are gonna lose bad.
even if we have correct talents, there is less chance against elf, DE and wiz.
i am saying from my personal experience, tried most talents setup and parameters. |
plz dont show example of tournaments, there is a huge difference of players in level 15.
top 3 knights should be in level 16 or 17 i guess :P
also some have diamond upgrades. |
for eddyimmanuel:
use holy magic :P |
| pff - knight is the strongest faction. It feels comfortable for almost battles in LWM world(especially PvP and events). |
| when i look the player CreatorofWiddows, he did really good at lv 13 as holy knight.. i dont know about higher lvls but at 13 a good knight is everything but not weak |
i totally agree with LORD_Destruktor. knights are weak in level 12 and 13.
i have tried CG against DE, wiz, elf, demon and barb. and found that if knights dont have correct talents against some factions, we are gonna lose bad.
even if we have correct talents, there is less chance against elf, DE and wiz.
i am saying from my personal experience, tried most talents setup and parameters.
Thats simply not true, last MT CRoW won at lvl 13 MT b4 that knight won lvl 11-13
That is not saying that knight is to strong, but it does show that knight is not to weak. |
hey Khellendros, you mean CreatorOfWidows ?
i think he had Diamond upgrade right? clerics? |
