| Author | fire dwarf op? |
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https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1015099970
in the above battle it is clear how op they are, one hit KO is being done i mean seriously
and why are their abilities not listed within the creatures... can someone give the real list |
and why are their abilities not listed within the creatures... can someone give the real list
They should all be there, it could be the case you're using flash instead of HTML5? |
for Meshy:
Yes using adobe flash
even so they should be listed |
| The game is moving away from flash so it is not surprising that the admins added to html5 before flash. I suggest you move over to html5 since flash will soon be obsolete. |
FD is over powered, but the BW had horrible set in case he faced any might faction.
His defence is for all purposes 0.
Versus casters he could win |
His defence is for all purposes 0.
Only just saw that, geez talk about glass cannon. |
| i didnt get it? how can you turn an army's defence to 0 do you have a link mate @Ektoras ? |
| ok the battle on top the mage caster had def 35 and attack 101 against FD. with 35 defence and playing second i dont think that attack is of any use. Its the initiative that would matter there... |
| His defense wasn't actually zero, Ektoras is just saying that it might as well have been because his defense was so low that everything gets 1-hit killed anyway. It was a consequence of the rare set he was wearing. |
for elven_blade:
Yes i guess he thought he would face casters |
nobody is prepared enough for facing two fd's. The high initiative of the fd troops just plowed through them by the time the bw's troops even got their turn.
Ektoras is right too, he seemed to be equipped to fight casters judging by the high golem count and low shooter splitup.. |
| his defense was 35 which might be low for his level, but imo it isn't that much of difference from 41 defense on enemy considering that the attack-damage situation that plays a role and both guys had more the double attack than defense. |
attack-defense situation that plays a role in damage output*
Initiative would be the primary deciding factor for both players. |
| any good recent fight links you guys have in case point to fd |
Since it seems there is some interest (and a lack of understanding of how FFA battles work :P), I'll give a more detailed response.
First off, yes, fire dwarf is OP even after the nerfs. But this battle exaggerates the strength of FD. Both the dark elf and the wizard came with artifacts that are horrible against might factions but strong against casters.
The wizard was the worst of all. He came in a mage disciple set and a plunderer ring of sorcery, which gives a lot of attack, knowledge, spell power, and character initiative at the expense of defense. Thanks to BW racial ability, that extra knowledge and SP turns into even more attack, so you end up with an absurd about of attack as a caster (hence the 101 attack) high knowledge and SP but terrible defense. In addition, the mage disciple set comes with a scroll, NOT a shield (this makes a big difference). This means you miss out on the extra armor enchants from the shield, making you even more vulnerable to might builds. That is why the wizard was wiped out so easy. Any might faction would have steamrolled him (elf, charmer elf, classic dwarf, barb, etc). You do not need the OP FD to win this one. If you come in this set at a high level vs a might opponent, you are guaranteed to lose. If he came in a combination of survilurg, imperial, and temporal artifacts he would have had a chance of winning this.
The dark elf also came with a build designed to kill casters, which means it is weak to might factions. He came with a plunderer ring and a scroll, which sacrifices defense (and armor enchants) for stronger magic and character initiative. Therefore, the fire dwarf cut through him effortlessly as well, but he wasn't quite as glassy as the battlewise wizard because he had higher defense from his survilurg/temporal items. |
