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AuthorTamer DE... What's your take?
You guys liking the Alt DE style?

I personally think it is very interesting, and would rather overpower Might Builds to a certain extent. To the contrary I also feel it seems very weak against Mage and Ranged Heroes.

But the fact that you can summon a creatures which is a lot of Meat that can deal and take damage simultaneously, and be then summoned again with full stack, is out right crazy! :P

And does the number of creatures summoned depend upon your FSL? Except for Tamer, any other talent sets you can think of?
Can't say anything before seeing actual recruiting numbers. But i feel its too much like the original DE, it has lesser damage output comparatively but summons are cheap (only 10 mana) so maybe that's there.
Ranged Heroes.

You mean factions which have a lot of shooters? Because I think summoning the trolls / harpies could play quite well here.

deal and take damage simultaneously, and be then summoned again with full stack, is out right crazy! :P

To be fair, this is quite similar to summon elementals, you don't have to kill the elementals (or tamed stacks) to win the battle, this could prove key in PvP type battles.

And does the number of creatures summoned depend upon your FSL?

Perhaps some combination of FSL and SP?

any other talent sets you can think of?

What do you mean? When I tried the insight ST, I have basic offence / leadership and fortune, so that could point into what talents are available for alt DE (If that's what you were asking).
We dont have the exact explanation of the Racial Skill yet I (With numbers, scalings and stuff I mean) nor the Talent Wheel and Recruitments, so its hard to say anything.

I agree that it is very very similar to the original DEs.
Its not like the difference in Playstyle between Wizard and BattleWise, for example.

I can assure though that the fact that a DE can get "Innate Swiftness" might be kind of broken (Overpowered)... xD
Termagatants with 9 Speed, Stalkers with 8 and Lizzord with 8 if you choose that Talent.

I hope they have "Battle Fury" in their Wheel Btw.
Btw, If you Summon a Unit, does it remove the previous one?

Like "Only one Summon may be active at a time" ???
for Ipsen:
yeah

only one summon can be present at a time.
Quite happy with my insight score :)
What;s your score guys?
According to me , if tamer DE will have offense talents too.. then IMO they will be OP.
Minos are big in number and spiders hit hard too , with battle fury and with innate swiftness they will be too hard to kill.
But most probably no offense sector would be there , but lets see ;)
To the contrary I also feel it seems very weak against Mage and Ranged Heroes.

Its not that week that you think.
DE can summon evil eyes against ranged factions , and terms have 9 speed.. so it can do a early strike.

And IMO it will be easiest against mage factions.. with soo much speedy creatures , gargs ( or any other ) cant run that much.
Minos are big in number
Obviously you won't get that many minos when alt de becomes playable
the recruitment will be balanced
for Elvian:
I think it's a good indicator on what the admins have considered as balanced.
But most probably no offense sector would be there , but lets see ;)
I think some levels in the insight did get offence talents.
I think some levels in the insight did get offence talents.

Heroes in the event had leadership and offense trees.

To be fair, this is quite similar to summon elementals, you don't have to kill the elementals (or tamed stacks) to win the battle, this could prove key in PvP type battles.

Yes... If you don't take into account that summon elemental is based on spell power... So if you're might you summon nothing and if you're magic it has lots of HP but does not have to be killed and has crappy stats.
I think this tamer is like a mix of summon phantoms and summon elementals. Its strength is as good as might phantoms, on the other hand it doesn't die if been hit just once and live as long as elementals.
as for people who think its like the normal DE, you seem to be forgeting normal DE was to begin with meant as a caster :D just most people ditched the mage side :P
It does have similarities, but I mean alts of the same faction would obviously be similar. Other than that it's quite different, the troops are different, recruiting also seems somewhat different, 1st tier seems far more useful than classic de's first tier upgrade, it is no mage and no range so kinda unique, and finally tamer is an extremely interesting ability.

Would be funny to see shrews+harpies hit and run in hunts lol.
it is no mage and no range so kinda unique,

how about dark witches? Those shoot and cast...
for guyb:

0 shot
Dark witches can shoot , but its upgrade shadow mistress can't.
for guyb:
Yeah I know dark witches and bandits can still shoot, but lev 15/16 and above their upgrade can't. And their upgrade is much stronger anyway.
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