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When you duel someone in cg, it needs to be first person who created duel vurses 2nd person who created duel, then 3rd vurses 4th, if that many join....
I hate it when I agree to duel some1 in cg and they create first and me second... and all of a sudden a third person swoops in and steals the duel...
Ik cg is supposed to be random, but it is so annoying when this happens.. |
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If you want to fight against a certain person, create standard duels for that. There you can accept/deny anyone.
Stakes are higher in CG, and knowing for sure who you would be fighting against would encourage staged CG duels for farming CG points.
Let it be random, and keep creating CG challenges until you get the satisfaction of fighting against your chosen enemy (at the cost of slaying other innocents along the way...) |
to navi:
its so hard to find players for CG mate. after so many mails and discussions you create a battle knowing your opponent. finally someone join in last minute with killer talents.
you will understand when you reach my level. many have DU here. |
If they have DU, they deserve to have some advantage, don't they?
What is the point of hiding your identity if you know who you will be facing?
If a knight knows a-priori what faction will face, he can chose his talents/setup in such a way that victory is guaranteed. That's why I think it's a bad idea if you know for sure who/what you will face.
I feel your pain, I know CG are hard to find. However, I don't think this suggestion is the answer to the problem. |
If a knight knows a-priori what faction will face, he can chose his talents/setup in such a way that victory is guaranteed. That's why I think it's a bad idea if you know for sure who/what you will face.
unlike wiz or elf or DE or Demon or Necro or barb.... knights dont have a standard talent setup to win.
need to change talents always to win a particular faction mate.
If they have DU, they deserve to have some advantage, don't they?
true, because they are spending real money.
they do have advantage in ST, hunts, MG's and TG's
but i dont want win/lose to be decided even before battle starting. |
but i dont want win/lose to be decided even before battle starting.
It's random. How can it be decided before the battle starts? Say you have a build that's good against Magic but weak against Might. Assuming that there's a 50/50 distribution between Magic and Might users, there is a 50/50 chance that you picked the right choice. That's the beauty of CG. Either you come up with a build that's average against everyone or a build that beats someone but is weak against someone. |
to Gursharaburas:
as i told in post no : 4, very few do CG.
if some one creates in CG page and hides his name, more than 90% i can guess or any one can guess who it will be.
joining with perfect talents to defeat or with DU will definitely decide the Result before the battle,,, unless terrible mistakes or some miracles. |
joining with perfect talents to defeat or with DU will definitely decide the Result before the battle,,, unless terrible mistakes or some miracles.
I'm sorry but deciding who you want to fight and preparing for him will even more definitely decide the result before the battle. What's the point of rock/paper/scissors if you know your opponent's hand beforehand? At least, in CG there is a chance that someone else can join and mess up the plans of a CG stalker. If you want arranged battles, use the regular duels. |
#9 I think you are missing the point. When fighting a known person you can both choose talents/AP etc for a fair fight. No one wants to lose.
In general though I am against the idea of matching fights depending upon when a person creates as it can be abused by cheats. However you can already have a very high chance of facing your desired opponent by both of you creating in the last few seconds of inlisting phase (when no other have already created).
People who jump into other peoples duels/2v2s/3v3s do so at their own risk. With so few people fighting at each level currently all they can be sure of happening is that they will be excluded from any future planned battles unless they constantly sit on CG screen refreshing. No one eill invite them to join his/her team or ask them to make up numbers in any planned combats. |
I'm sorry but deciding who you want to fight and preparing for him will even more definitely decide the result before the battle.
i have done 282 CG battles. 95% i know who is joining.
always a fair battle.
if regular duels give CG points, i wont go to CG page at all :P |
for Grusharaburas:
Commanders' guild: 0 (5.05) +144.9
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i think DiN made it quite clear here
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i have done 282 CG battles. 95% i know who is joining.
always a fair battle.
You are forgetting the legion of people who could abuse this to farm CG points. Still no to this suggestion.
if regular duels give CG points, i wont go to CG page at all
CG points should only be awarded to those who are prepared to fight anyone. If you choose who you want to fight because they're the only ones you can beat then you don't deserve CG points at all.
niranjan2009:
I do concede to DEATHisNEAR's point that two honest people could be trusted to come up with a fair duel but what does have to do with my CG stats? I've never won a single CG fight since becoming a Dwarf but that is to be expected with my low FSL. Still, that is not a reason for me to arrange CG battles with other folks with low FSL too or with people that I know I can beat for sure. I will remain firm in my stand that CG battles should not be arranged even if I lose all of my CG battles. |
CG points should only be awarded to those who are prepared to fight anyone.
can a Defensive knight win a chaos DE or chaos wiz?
can a holy knight win a Dark Necro?
can a new 15 level guy win top 15 levels like jedi, bojo?
you must be joking or you dont know what you are talking.
If you choose who you want to fight because they're the only ones you can beat then you don't deserve CG points at all.
i did posted 11th post, i always do fair fight.
my win/lose ratio .... 129/282
if i choose the players who i can win, then i should have 100% record :P
i think i am talking to people who have no idea about CG, my mistake. |
you must be joking or you dont know what you are talking.
I'm talking about "fighting" not "having an advantage against." Bear in mind that the talent system is still in the experimental stage. Time may come when you will not be able to change talents without paying a fee...
if i choose the players who i can win, then i should have 100% record
I believe I already said this: I do concede to DEATHisNEAR's point that two honest people could be trusted to come up with a fair duel...
i think i am talking to people who have no idea about CG, my mistake.
And your idea about CG is the only right one? I'm the one defending the current system here. I believe my idea of CG battles is closer to the admin's vision than yours. I actually like the thrill of not knowing who I will be fighting with. Maybe the admins intended it to be that way? |
And your idea about CG is the only right one?
did i said that?
I'm the one defending the current system here. I believe my idea of CG battles is closer to the admin's vision than yours.
current system favors the players who have DU, who are high in fsp levels.
they can join in last minute with full setup and ruins every weak faction level or low AP CG battles.
because of these reasons very few doing these battles.
well, i believe this will be my last post here and hope Admins do some changes.
well to players who have DU in my level: i am not posting this to offend you guys, i faced problems before which pushed me to stop CG for sometime. just to avoid happening i am saying this. |
did i said that?
You implied it with this statement: i think i am talking to people who have no idea about CG, my mistake.
What did you mean by "people who have no idea bout CG" if you didn't mean that yours is the only interpretation of CG rules? Did you think that my idea of CG is invalid?
current system favors the players who have DU
1. DU players, whether through sheer determination or donation, deserve it.
2. Not all levels have DU available.
who are high in fsp levels
Only a problem with virtual 16 and 17 forced/unintentional campers. This is not inherent to the CG system and can be fixed by implementing the missing levels. Everyone else is responsible for their FSP distribution. I'm suffering mine and I'm not complaining. |
I believe my idea of CG battles is closer to the admin's vision than yours. I actually like the thrill of not knowing who I will be fighting with. Maybe the admins intended it to be that way?
I don't think so. If it is, CG players name always in hide state like in blind tourney. But why they give an option to choose hide name!!!
If you hide your name and join, in .RU people may confused who it is. But here it is 95-100% correct guess, i think you know why: P
Due to lack of players, here CG Players want to arrange fight. By PM or chat etc...It can be staged but will be caught easily since the popularity of CG battle/points/arts. |
I don't think so. If it is, CG players name always in hide state like in blind tourney. But why they give an option to choose hide name!!!
It's called a "challenge". If you show your name, it means you have the balls to ask people to look at your stats and equipment and have them configure themselves to best kick your butt. It means you're confident that even if you're unprepared you can still fight anyone. Of course it could also mean you're just asking for it in which case that's what fighting is all about! XD
If you hide your name and join, in .RU people may confused who it is. But here it is 95-100% correct guess, i think you know why: P
It's not a CG problem then but a server problem. Fix the population problem rather than put a temporary patch on everything affected by low server population.
It can be staged but will be caught easily since the popularity of CG battle/points/arts.
Which means more job for the admins. I'd rather they work on the merge or updates than investigating cheaters... |
I don't think so. Since CG win will give Guild points. So it is easy to track by admin rather them looking into normal GB which gives only exp and fsp. CG battle always has some viewers here (both active and silent) as per my experience. They can find intentional loss.
It's called a "challenge"....etc i like this, but question is how many days or how many times you do this lol,
Imagine you are a holy knight daily opens CG challenge (without hide) waiting for thrill. Some poor elf, demons, is joined and dead. Some small loss, but you are happy and confident. But soon you see some dark neco/chose Wiz/DE/Might DE with or without DU join last minute and killed you regularly taking advantage of your setup. One time, two time, 3 time.....25 time....50th time....still you feel thrill. Then you are a bit weird :) |
