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Hi,
I just wanted to know which faction would have over which faction...
1. Knights would be stronger against ....
2. Elves would be stronger against ....
3. Wizards would be stronger against ....
4. D E would be stronger against ....
5. Barb would be stronger against ....
6. Demon would be stronger against ....
7. Necro would be stronger against ....
Particularly at higher levels say 10+ ( that's pretty high for me ;)
Regards,
Yuvika.
Have a nice day! |
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Nothing...all are best...if you had your own style or know that faction tactics,you can play that good...
But in some cases:Wizard > barb(slightly greater)
demon > wizard...if their units are afraid of fear...but nothing worth. |
But in some cases:Wizard > barb(slightly greater)
thats exactly what i was looking for, slight advantages like maybe Knight > elves ( that 75% Large shield).
I know that there are no match winning Factions , just slight advantages, trying to see if a Paper Rock Scissor formula can fit this game like it does in many other games , AOE for eg.
Regards,
Yuvika.
Have a nice day! |
Depends on the build, I won't say that a faction automatically has an advantage over another.
You may find some information you're looking for from the statistics of the last minor tournament, as compiled by Kusika.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0Ag3wE7pbQTZYdEpyTjZ1ZERiN29YVDk3a0lPO EhPS1E&hl=en_US&gid=0 |
| i know that knights are good in groups and duels at any level but in 8 lvl barb vs knight barb have no chance anyway becouse of crossbows |
| any faction > knight XD |
IMO in CG duels at lvl with decent strategies by both players:
Elf vs knight - evenly matched.
Elf vs demon - demon have almost no chance
Elf vs DE - Almost even.
Elf vs wiz - elf have upper hand.
Elf vs barb - elf have no chance :)
Elf vs necro - pretty even again.
This is just my opinion from what i have experienced. |
this is what i think would be the case for duels, although there are different kinds of battles where these relations shift a lot:
knight (defense build) > demon
knight (light magic build) > barbarian
knight (full attack & max crossbowmen) > wizard (magic build)
elf > wiz (magic build)
wiz (magic build) > knight (defense build)
wiz (might build) > i have no idea!
de (magic build) > knight (defense build)
de (might build) > wizard (magic build)
barbarian > demon
demon > wizard (magic build)
necro > barbarian
obviously, i find that demon, barbarian, elf and necro have pure offensive build (necro having defense + vitality talents and everything else on attack through erudition). there is an option for necro to play with poison or nature magic, but it's not a good build for duels, imo.
keep in mind, that these are extremes. of course, barbarian has advantage against elves, and against DE, but, i think greatest difference in barbarians advantage is whan fighting demon.
i'd say this would be it, if both players were perfect tacticians |
| oops.. I meant IMO in CG duels at lvl 11 with decent strategies by both players: |
for Reaperthug: Thank You
for Mathangi:Thank you
These are the kind of opinions i am looking for. I know there is no winning faction.
Let me rephrase the Question.
If you HAD to fight and WIN a duel Who would you wish your opponent be, IF...
You were a Knight...
You were a elf ...
You were a wiz ... and so on ..
Reaperthug, an elf, (most his life) feels comfortable facing Demons the most.
Pang- the most (?) famous knight [ he created the knight faction thread in god knows what year] what do you feel most comfortable facing [ I know your faction sucks ;)] ?
that what i am looking for ...
Regards,
Yuvika.
Have a nice day!
P.S. -- Sorry to pester you guys so much, but you would surely be willing to help a damsel in distress :) |
from my level12 CG battles (played as might DE):
might DE VS knight: DE should win, knight have a small chance
might DE VS necro: DE win easy
might DE VS wizz: DE win easy against magic build (might builds have a small chance)
might DE VS barb: barb should win, DE have a small chance
might DE VS elf: balanced battle
might DE VS demon: ??(didn't played enough battles against demons) |
might DE VS necro: DE win easy
yeah thats why 90 percent of times necro beat DE xd |
i don't know for level9, maybe necro can beat DE at this level...
but at level12, no chance at all
exemples:
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=500752828
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=499711453
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=499735982
necro is one of the easiest opponent for DE at level12, it' 100% chances of victory for DE if you don't play weird. |
The question was about might necro and 2 out of your 3 examples are full darkness build.
I found DE always easy to handle, but then this is maybe not a fair point of view due to my 6 racial. |
going by the statistics of the last MT on .ru necs have 60% win against DE at lvl12, asuming that some of those necs played magic I think it's save to asume that might nec have about 70% against DE.
This lead drops continually with rising combat level to 53/48/43 %
@Yuvika
I think you will find all the information you want here:
http://daily.heroeswm.ru/n/mt11_stat#comm |
Many are quoting the last MT. But people should be aware that MTs are different than duels. In MT people do not know which faction or players they will be fighting against. Talents, arts, and recruitment can be changed to better fight against a specific class or player.
for Mathangi:
of course, barbarian has advantage against elves, and against DE
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=31659696
-at the time the barb had better faction lvl, faction resist, and guild lvls :p
for Pang:
any faction > knight XD
knight > knight? :)
for Yuvika:
Due to many factors and variables it's hard to definitively say that faction X > faction Y.
But I'll say that might DE definitely have an advantage over chaos wizards. |
any faction > knight XD
definitely in level 12 and 13.
no chance against holy or might or chaos wiz.
no chance against might DE.
no chance against holy or mighty or nature Elf.
no chance defensive or all Necro. *sigh*
no chance against might Demon.
some chance against all built Barb.
note: here i am talking about a normal built knight with leadership, fervor, rally or offensive talents. |
any faction > knight XD
definitely in level 12 and 13.
I doubt that XD
https://www.lordswm.com/tournaments_hist.php?tour=57&tid=705 |
any faction > knight XD
it seems like a joke. in fact, the hiding meaning behind:-
any faction can kill your faction (well, since i m knight now, so i just use knight) easily IF you:
1. underestimate your opponents
2. careless and make stupid move
3. dont have luck (what i mean was the external factor NOT the luck talent or luck parameter)
SO, even someone mention on might DE VS necro: DE win easy, it only can be true if the situation is NOT fulfill with the conditions above. else, even necro can pawn might DE too. |
