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AuthorRegarding Clan money
Is there a way to audit the cash flow of the clan?
https://www.lordswm.com/clan_log.php?id=xxx

Withdraw the xxx and add your clan number!

Example https://www.lordswm.com/clan_log.php?id=7684

Good luck
not exactly sure what you mean, but if i've understood you want to look at a clan's finance log ?

go to the clan's page and then under the list of recruiter's etc. there will be "log" click that and then you can see the clans financial history from its creation
merlin36 got it right. But is there a way to see if a player is using the clan for financial gain?
http://lordswm.org/strony/eng/tutorials/022-clans.php

Part 001 - look at point 05
There are listed possible examples.
[Post deleted by moderator merlin36 // wrong one :)]
You can check for a multies join to clan, etc.
But... is hard to prove that - clan founder/treasure keeper can take elements/money and use it "for a clan"...
for Schwarzenegger:
now i understand, you cannot really 100% tell if they are using for financial gain but if you check the log and there is someone withdrawing lots of money and not depositing any you could make that assumption :)
i guess admins are having filters to check triangle banking and so on with using clan fund and players!
I see. So the clan can be used as a vehicle for money laundering and embezzlement.

Can people be punished based on assumption alone?
yes of course... and reported in CaA - financial
Oh yeah you bet they do :P
https://www.lordswm.com/clan_info.php?id=7496 - Clan Profile

https://www.lordswm.com/clan_log.php?id=7496 - Clan Log

This clan has a long history of being used for illegal activity. (https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1866184 for my previous investigations into it).

It's an interesting experiment to go through the log and see exactly how many of the characters involved with it are now blocked.

And I'm sure that there are other clans like it.

Have Fun

Grunge
Any money sent to a clan as invitation fees, donations & taxes are counted as "gifts" under the rules and need to be within the the limits specified.

In general, money sent to a clan can be used in any way the clan leader wishes (with the exception of donations for a clan to be converted into a MC which are covered under their own section in rules but still need to be within the "gift" amounts allowed).

No money can be paid by additional characters though and admins can and do still issue penalties to everyone involved if they payments appear to just be used as a way to "get around" the other financial assistance rules.

It can be very confusing trying to track transfers to/from clans but not impossible if someone wishes to spend the time working it out.
closed by Lord Schwarzenegger (2011-11-15 05:10:53)
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