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Ok, I saw in multiple threads that people claim to have found a roulette wining betting system:
1. Martingale - this is one of the most famous betting systems, but still it gives you actually less winings than loses. The theory is that you double the amount of bet every time you loose. It has actually been proved that the Martingale system gives high wins within ten bets(1h:40min).
But lets look it in the long term. The approximate chance of wining is 47%, so lets say you are a lvl 13lord, in that case the possibilities of wining in 100 attemts are:
Round 1: 47wins 53loses
Round 2: 25wins 28loses
Round 3: 13wins 15loses
Round 4: 7wins 8loses
Round 5: 3wins 5loses
Round 6: 2wins 3loses
Round 7: 1win 2loses
Round 8: 1win 1lose
Total outcome 99wins 1lose
Total gain: 9900
Total lose: 12800+1000minutes
The reason why we have this s because this is a long term, and most of the free gold makers don't think about it. This is the average scenario, it may go worse but still achieving 2 wins on round 8 is 47%*47%(the odds are against you). Do not bet on roulette unless you are lvl 26 because then you get Round 9:). The limit is set to lvl 13 because they have the highest chances(still bellow 50%). |
2. Apearence
This is the second most used betting system, it claims that by watching the roulette and seeing that a number doesn't win in the previous 6-7hours it will win soon. They lie in 97% percent of the uses. This is something that was discussed by a famous scientist(His name starts with D/T, sorry I cannot remember it now) who asked the following question:
If I toss a coin 5times and it's all heads what are the probabilities that it will land tails next time? His assistent did the following math:
First toss: 50%heads 50%tails
Second toss: 25%2heads/25%first is heads second tails and so on...
Third Toss: 12.5%3heads...
Fourth Toss: 6.25%4heads...
Fifth Toss: 3.125%5heads...
Sixth Toss: 1.5625%6heads...
So the assistant said that the probability that the next toss is tails is 98.4375%. Then the scientist threw the coin and it landed heads.
It landed heads because the coin doesn't remember what it did 10 seconds ago, because the probabilities are 100% for past events - such as you are 100% sure that you will be born because you've already been born. When we translate that to roulette it means that after 10days of getting only 13 the probability it will land again on 13 is 1/38. So don't listen to Apearence theories! |
| So in a nutshell: There's no roulette system that works, the odds are always against you. |
| There's no roulette system that works, the odds are always against you. |
@2 ... it is even worse than that ... from the Theory of Probability, "if a number is not showing, the chance that it shows next spin are very very low" ...
The theory is like this:
assuming you do not know that there is the same chance of getting one of the 38 numbers ... then you start observations ... and you see after a thousand spins that, for example, 4 comes 10 times and 8 only 1 ... then, the theory of probability tells you that for next spin the chance of getting a 4 is 10/1000 = 1% while the chance to get a 8 is 1/1000 = 0.1% ... so ... what number will you bet on? |
Maybe we can try : Profit per day : min. 10K, then gather it in 30 days .. and see ur money .. :)
Bet on 2 kind of dozens .. :) but be careful on 0,00 .. :) they sometimes come out without we ever think before .. :) |
OK first off....my record in playing here does not reflect anything simply because there were several mistakes in the bets made...like betting 1st group instead of 3rd.....and those mistakes were more from not paying atttention ......having said that....
There is this little thing on the chaos theory....and it is more an art than a science...although there is science to it. Simply put...."certain things" iterate....and there is a "level" or predictability to it. The "trick" is to have the dicipline to play the "principles" and not deviate. This is much easier here than in the real game where the Casino purposely sends out "distractions", like that waiter offering you a free drink....POOF, there goes your concentration...LOL
The laws of probabilty are true as explained above. The next "singular" bet has the same chance of comming out as the last one.....but they tend to "group".....and there lies the very small window of ooportunity ;)
...and that would apply to any similar game. |
| Is there any mathematical proof to your theories of principles or numbers grouping? |
| well,roulette is unprodictable i don`t recomand it but i recoman my betting theory it doesn`t gives you that much of gold but if you play 8 hours a day 7 days a week with level 8 you would win about 70k a week in roulette and it`s LOSING chances is 1\38 |
Is there any mathematical proof to your theories of principles or numbers grouping?
there isn't :), i bet he's one claiming 0.99~ isn-t equal to 1 :) |
I just posted that because I was in a generous mood and I thought to "open" the eyes of some who have the "eyes to see" :)
Many books have been written ons this sytem or that....and my question always has been....if its that good then why the heck are you writting about it? You should be playing it! LOL
So to answer your question....let me ask you this....do you seriously think I would post those "details" in this public forum for free???
I think I would best just apply it myself ;)
Meantime tho...its not as easy as it sounds.....the principles and "grouping" are very complex; not to mention the discipline required to actually apply them. After figuring out the principles, now you got to practice practice practice till you get it right....and thats what I'm doing currently, practicing here where it dont cost anything. LOL
Think of it as mental Kung Fu. Many years of "correct" practice and then you can run circles around your opponent. Only this time, the opponent is the game ;) |
I think the fact is that not a single roulette, real or generated by a computer, is giving exactly the same chance to any draw ... maybe for a small defect in the fabrication, maybe because of a flaw in the random generation ... and that's why some numbers come more often than expected ... and that's why "in theory" you should bet on numbers that occur more often rather than those that appear less frequently ...
whatever the case, roulette is good only for casinos, never for players |
With other words, this is something you just have to believe in, without any proof. :-)
I don't, sorry, I prefer to rely on maths. I guess I don't have the eyes to see and will therefore miss the chance to lose money. |
| Oh there is math to go with it for sure....everything relies on math, and there is proof too....I'm just not going to give it to you. You have to find it yourself ;) |
well if you dont like maths and u find that the roulette is always landing on something that u dont pick
pick something u dont think will get picked
or bet the same as someone else that way u both get rich or u both loose all ur money ;) |
| Yeahh I suggest : TheDeadManRIP, Bes2009, Evgenich and HeartBreakKid |
Oh there is math to go with it for sure....everything relies on math, and there is proof too....I'm just not going to give it to you. You have to find it yourself ;)
yeah, sure, i also saw flying pigs yesterday, i have proof too, i'm just not going to give it to you :).
Btw, i had read the books you are referring too, they sure are intriguing and "seems plausible", but they don't have mathematicla proof behind them, sorry to break it to you :), probability have nothing to do with belief |
Sure, Zoloth, waiter with the free drink is there to make you feel good, to make you feel welcome, because casino owner knows that each bet you make, you statistically give about 3,5% of that money to the casino because no one can predict the random game as roulette. You can pretend to be a scientist or something(without ability to give simple proof of your theories) but I would rather believe Albert Einstein as a scientific genius than you. No offence.
chimimorio, post 2, nicely done. The toss of the coin was a simple example of gambler fallacy, gambler believes that the probability of event depends on previous events because he thinks random means the numbers fall equally in the long run. He just cant understand that few weeks is not a long run so his number might not fall in a week.
Chimimorio I know the results should be quite the same as those first 2 but would you mind trying to count the probability of losing in Martingale for single numbers? Like every bet has a chance 1/38 and you raise your bet everytime by 1/36 to keep up with the losses. I know fusei did some math proofs for this but she didnt show the exact numbers like you. Just if you have time and will for it. :-) |
i would say going martingale here is bound to failing because there is an upper limit to the amount of money one can bet, namely level*1000
since max level is 14, max bet is 14000, whinch is less than what you would have to bet after 10 consecutive loss with a starting bet of 100 gold.
Long story short, it isn't fireproof |
| I mean when you bet on single numbers you can raise your basic bet only about 3% each time to cover your loses. That gives you like 100 shots before you hit the roof..But of course there is a chance to miss the single number 100 times in row and like all similar systems you bet too much to win very little. |
