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| Author | It seems necromancers are a "dead" faction ;-) |
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| | Just check at ur deepest heart which to play .. :) I play DE coz of ONLY 1 reason : I LOVE IT .. ^^ I do not care the abilities, etc. Just love it and play it .. :) | @2
Well I like necs best, but I also would like to have a chance for winning. As in case of TG I played the first 2 levels as nec, but later on it became to darn tough. | | Its your problme if you cant continue from TG 2 as necro,I did mine easy,won like 20 cavans per day at lvl 3 TG! ;( | i always want to be a necro/knight...
i love shooters
but its too late | @4
Well as I said the thieving is only one poit in the decision, I'm also interested in a magic DE build for pvp reasons, therfore I wanted to change some time before and start getting a little faction points. And thieving is ideal for this.
But none the less, you as one of the few necs, do you plan to stay nec. Have you concieved some kind weakness in them compared to other faction or do you think it's all just fine.
And what do you think why there are so few necs? | | stay nec! mass poison gives u good capability of thieving too :D | | @7 well I don't think so | Im good with necro for a while,only weakness is no morale!
Initiative is maybe low,but its ok cuz all of our units have almost same ini so no creature lags back,although delay seems to be a big problem!
I plan to go demon at lvl 9 necro,its boring to always play one faction :)!
Also I dont know why we have so few necs,maybe all of them are just convinced that necro is weak,who knows :S! | @9
I my reasoning it has something to do with no moral (no joke) and the racial abbility. To get a fix ammout of lvl 1 creatures depending on the faction lvl can't compete with other racials e.g. more percentage gating for demons or more percentage critical hit as for elfes.
Because the last 2 abilities effect you whole army, so if the army size increases (with combat level) these abbilities become better as well. As you gate even more units and do even more citical damage with larger stacks.
But the fix ammount of level 1 troops has less and less effect, if the army as a whole increases in size.
Also raising abbility becomes useless if the army is to large, except for blocking or distraction reasons. | ^^ The best faction is the one you like most for now, that's it.
>>> Back then when lv.8 is the highest this server, many DE players complaint their suffers from faction imbalance. Maybe now many see that DE as strong faction while i rarely use DE since lv.7/8 because i like to maximize 2nd chance with necro resurrection, demon's gating and mage through shot. There's many ways to increase chance of winning and enjoy it rather than faction option. | I think our raciall is fine,and rez is almost usseles from lvl 8+(since I changed to might)!
Well the biggest reason to change from necro to DE is cuz necro cant do thief and hunts well,while DE is specialized in that!
Necro is a excellent MG faction tho,I think its the best faction for MG,maybe besides wizard! | This is NOT directed at you, Ranor, or is it meant to be negative, just my observation and opinion.
It does seems that you did what a lot (not all) of high level players do. Once some of us encounter some difficulty in battles (be it ambush, hunts, etc), we go choose and switch to an 'easier' faction to play. And I would think a lot of players at around the lvl 7-10 might have read the forums/top players list and get influenced by what they see and read.
But IMO, the point of a game is to overcome difficulty. The harder it is, the more over-whelming the odds, the better the satisfaction it is when u win.
Of course, if it's IMPOSSIBLE to win no matter what u do or what arts u wear (like fighting 100 battles in full arts, and losing them all), then maybe it's justified to change faction. But I have seen 1 of my fren changed faction (to DE) at level 8 coz he lost TWO ambushes!
When I was a newbie (I still am in many ways), I was kidda demoralized when I read that knights are 'weak' compared to factions like DE. I was tempted to change then. But that thought lasted the whole of about 15 minutes. I went to look at the top list, and I saw players in the top list who are NOT DEs, and my mind was made up. If they can do it and reach the top with supposedly 'weaker' factions, WHY CAN'T I?
I looked at a player like Antos, who have played his ENTIRE career at Lordswm as a knight (against all the odds) and all I can say is - R.E.S.P.E.C.T. He's the only player lvl 13 or higher who has played as 1 faction throughout. Is he suffering? I don't think so. Is he not winning hunts? I don't think so. Is he not winning ambushes? I don't think so. The winning % may not be great, but it shows it's still doable.
Who knows, it may come a time when even a dedicated faction player like Antos finds battles impossible to do, he might also go the way of the DE.. and I would understand. But for players below level 10 to change factions the minute they lose a few battles in a row just to get an 'easier' ride seems...
Just quoting what I think some player think when they change faction (and not directed at Ranor personally). Level 9 faction:
Well I like necs best, but I also would like to have a chance for winning. As in case of TG I played the first 2 levels as nec, but later on it became to darn tough.
and Level 11 Necro:
Its your problme if you cant continue from TG 2 as necro,I did mine easy,won like 20 cavans per day at lvl 3 TG! ;(
Same faction, different mentality.
My last thoughts would be that this game would be extremely boring (and flawed) if one has to go the DE way in order to be successful at the highest levels. Imagine u join a PvP at lvl 14, and you have 6 DEs playing each other...
Anyways, the above are just my personal opinion, and is not meant to offend anyway [ esp not u, Ranor. :) ]. Oh, and my opinion don't usually mean much anyway. Just passing time while waiting for my 1-hour ambush penalty to pass. haha.. :p | | +1,nice said :D | @13
nice post, no offense taken.
As I said before, my decision to change was not purely based on TG, but also on the prospect of making a magic DE. I've read in some post, that magic DE sucks, so I took a closer look at the abbilities and his talent and wanted to try it out by myself (something like: I will prove you wrong).
But the point I'm aiming at is that it seems to me as if DE is slightly overpowered, therefore I added the player distribution and I would like to here some other players thoughts about it.
This is in no way meant as whining and complaining but rather an evaluation of the current situation. Maybe it can even lead to some feedback for the admins (although I'm not aiming that high) | | would like to hear some other players | Just want to answer you question about magic DE!
It deals massive dmg with magic in group battle,but if no strong ally to protect it,magic DE ussualy dies after or before 2nd shot with hero :S! | It deals massive dmg with magic in group battle,but if no strong ally to protect it,magic DE ussualy dies after or before 2nd shot with hero
consider also that DE are quite poor on ranged attacks ... I am not saying that DE are the worst in PvP, but definetely they excell in other activities (like thieving and hunts) | i will turn back to necro when i get all faction skill to lv4-6 XD
i wont be a DE.too many DE now,and they all have 3%*DEraciallv dmg reduce to you.at high lv it could be 18%-27%.
if be necro,few player can reduce dmg to you.
and necro is not so bad at groupbattles. | I really want to believe that necro has a role at high level.
I will keep playing necro since:
I am PvP-oriented and take pleasure in cursing people.
However, I strongly suggest u take DE and maximise attack if you wanna be Jack of all trades in ambush AND hunt AND MG AND offensive PvP AND offensive magical PvP AND well everything...
ALSO support necro does not get as much xp as others (i am really against dividing XP because some1 killed more hp than you)
Also raise is not powerful enough at high level, and your no moral and average initiative makes necro even harder.
I only hope WHEN and IF new updates come out, developers (BUT I DOUBT IT) will balance DE or 'MAXIMISING attack skill' symptoms.
Who knows maybe introduce hero perks
Take a look at my ideas how to balance races:
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1858318&page=0
But guess what, I got hammered by other DE becasue I wanna 'Balance' them and they dont wanna lose their flavour of the month/year title... |
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