| Author | Payback for repairing or enchantment - is legal ? |
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As in topic.
If yes, where is limit?
Some players offer 20% compensation, others 50%, or 1000 - 2000 for enchantment. |
| Im not sure about the enchanting but the repairing isnt illegal. You are paying someone else to repair your arts. That is the point of the smith guild. But as i said im not sure about if it is legal to pay people if you enchant there arts. |
But as i said im not sure about if it is legal to pay people if you enchant there arts.
It's legal, alright. Unless you're the best enchanter, you have to convince people to send you elements. That's where Payback for enchantment comes into play.
And Payback for repairing is only natural - you can't expect peole to spend _their_ gold to repair _your_ things, now can you? :) |
| [Post deleted by moderator Sven91 // Sorry, misunderstood from my side] |
For example, your sword is 0/20 and the smither pays you 100 gold if you let him repair it for you
Never saw anything like this happen - nor do I believe something like this ever took place. Free repairs is the best people offer. |
But this way you pay to other players for building your skill.
In card game and combat it is not allowed.
first one example from Smiths and Enchanters services forum:
30% repair for only 30% repair cost - weapon owner pay only 30% for repair, and smith pay rest (70%), other words smith give 70% gold to art. owner. |
But this way you pay to other players for building your skill.
It's normal way to improve your skill.
It's not a reason for punishment traditionally. |
30% repair for only 30% repair cost - weapon owner pay only 30% for repair, and smith pay rest (70%), other words smith give 70% gold to art. owner.
Wrong. That gold is lost forever - repairing takes gold from smith.
The thing is, repairing usual arts is _more expensive_ than selling them and buying new. So unless you are the best smith around, to build up your skill you have to convince people to send stuff to you - you do that by offering good deals. Like repair for part of repair cost. |
| Maybe wrong, gold is gone, but weapon owner save money, it's almost this same as give him gold for buy new weapon. |
it's almost this same as give him gold for buy new weapon.
No-no-no. It really isn't. When you give someone gold for weapon - he gets a weapon, you lose gold. When you repair for part of repair cost - you both lose gold, you get SG points and the other guy gets partially repaired weapon.
I hope someone else tries to explain it, since obviously can't find the right words. But if anything - please take my word for this: repair for part of repair cost or compensation for enchantment aren't illegal. |
| or part of gold |
| [Post deleted by moderator Shebali // Double post] |
sorry for double post.
When you repair for part of repair cost - you both lose gold, you get SG points and the other guy gets partially repaired weapon.
So rich players get skills for weapon owners golds - buing skill? |
| I dont exactly get ur point LEVY blacksmith was always for rich players coz poor cant afford to repair their stuff especialy since 1 point of blacksmith cost 4000g and u need abt 1000 of them for decent repair efficiency. Do u rly think poor charackter can afford those 1000 which is exactly 4milion gold? and for max efficiecy its abt 11 milion gold. Do u want to tell me any single char can afford that much? |
I'm well on my way, anyone can do but, ya you sink a lot of your own gold into it... (though my resent trans log will say differently).
but on the topic of if it's illegal to charge, I say no, I can't find a rule that say this can't happen, both players are getting something, the smith guy/gal is skill in smith, and the customer is getting his weapon/armor/accessory partly restored.
so smith charges lets say 50% of repair cost, and it a hunters brad sword(400 gold to repair) so that's 200 from the customer. the smith puts in the other 200(making the 400 needed to repair). when it's fixed the smith returns the weapon. what could be illegal about that? |
I'm asking becouse I didn't see rule.
Maybe admins add new one, they few times before change general rules.
Question is: how much gold for compensation is legal 10%,20% maybe 70% or 100%
Early or late some smith (with SG 7-9) will ask 120% 150% for repair arts (i.e. 80% durability)
Also is normaly if someone have upgraded art. he look for smith not for new weapon.
This same is for enchanters.
Where is "red line" ?
Or maybe we need price list for our work ?
I don't wanna login someday and see: banished for sending gold / compensation. |
