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AuthorPossible fraud in clan (#151 _SGHeroes_)
I think the original owner of this clan implemented a fraud within the clan.

Clan details - https://www.lordswm.com/clan_info.php?id=7151

To shorten the long story, this clan original owner(s) implemented a deposit system to encourage us to put in money into the clan so the clan will have fund to run and purchase some good items. To support the clan I've put in 40k on 15 Oct 2008. However, recently we found out that the owner was gone while the clan got no money left!! So I start suspecting this could be a fraud that our money was used in an improper way. We're gathering information on this and hope the moderator can help us in judging this possible fraud.
sjb50 is the suspect.He withdrawn large amount of gold from _SG Heroes and deposited most of it to his clan:#270 The Order Of The Paladin.But he deposited some back 2 prevent been suspected.After his clan had money,He left _SG Heroes,thinking he could run away.

Proof:
https://www.lordswm.com/clan_log.php?id=7151
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_transfers.php?id=4369375
We do not have an large amount of gold...feel free to look and quetion all you like.
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how about Zartan leaving the clan with the clan's thief invitation? will he return it to the clan when is thieves guild reaches 2?
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I think this may affect the clan's future........
We should arrange funds for our clans first...and create a character who shall be the fund manager........the character will be governed by 2 or more persons...in this way we can assure that the fund will remain in safer hand!
What do you think?
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and 2 wildwild
sbj50 is not using all the money he got 2 his clan(which i just found out recently)
He swallowed some gold 4 himself.
Proof:
https://www.lordswm.com/clan_log.php?id=7151

https://www.lordswm.com/clan_log.php?id=7270&page=1
He Withdrawn more than he deposited.
Yes I left, but I have not deserted you. The clan is dead. No one had rights after sjb50 left.

Currently I am setting up a raffle for my thief invite to start repaying the people whom sg_necro and yuanx took deposits from before they stopped playing.

Souvik, you want a fund mnager, The only player with access to the clan fund still is yuanx and he has not been online for over 1 momth. SO unless yuanx returns, there is no clan fund.

Next, SJB50 withdrew clan funds to repay deposits that were originally taken by sg_necro and yuanx. Look at his transfer log. Every time he took gold from the clan fund he gave it to a sgheroes member. Look at sg_necro's transfer log. Currently he has 57,000 gold that belongs to the clan.

Be patient, I am trying to get people repaid for gold that was put on deposit with the clan. I do not see anymore thief invites being handed down through the clan the ones out there will need to be used to raise gold to repay clan members. First priority will be to return deposits, next will be to return donations if there is any gold left after the deposits.

Even though this is not our responsibility, silk and I, have taken on the tak of getting as many people repaid as we can.
Hmm, i hope it will be possible to get the donations back. I have some money in the Clan Bank.

It really sucks, if they are gone:-(

Killer_Uncle
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well i hope necro and yuanx come back,i hope they come back,they have some clan gold,and zarton was right i was only returning gold to members and never took any for myself
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