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| Author | Ukraine best skill guild or best cheater guild? |
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So we gather all the evidence of cheating and unfair hand slaps for the violators.
We take our case before a judge and he reviews it.
He looks at us and says " You decided to ignore the theft of intellectual property when you joined this game. What did you expect? Now get out of my courtroom!"
"Someone put a bullet through his eye. No one knows who gave the order. When I heard it, I wasn't angry; I knew Moe, I knew he was head-strong, talking loud, saying stupid things. So when he turned up dead, I let it go. And I said to myself, this is the business we've chosen. I didn't ask who gave the order, because it had nothing to do with business!" Hyman Roth,Godfather2
:D | He looks at us and says " You decided to ignore the theft of intellectual property when you joined this game. What did you expect? Now get out of my courtroom!"
:D Love this | for Lawton:
Has the element price really increased? I took a quick look at market prices but I am not seeing it. Only abrasive seems more expensive than usual. | You have to laugh at this. Older players (like me) are screwed by any change to the game. It is easier and easier to get FSP for new players. Why do you think so many people restart their accounts when they reach level 20+? WG introduction, MG extra fights, CG changes, events all the time (not before and they did not give guild points). MY charachter at level 15 is laughable compared to totaly average charachter level 15 at this time.
The current fsp system gives player extra fsp if he's below average or more exp if he's above average, as result everyone will be left in the average fsp ratio. It's impossible to run from this. Furthermore by CL 22 - 23 you should have several FSL maxed out, one cannot escape from this.
Furthermore PoS has the capacity to make any character stay competitive if their fsp is low, but there's no way to create additional MG points.
MG points however, give definitive stats, that do not follow any balance rule nor principle, they're forever an asset that will strengthen the player's account.
The new MG quests will also be playable to older player, it's not a exclusive thing for newer players.
I am not here to start a conversation about finances nor business administration, but saying "X business is small, therefore cannot hire staff" is a terrible excuse, that doesn't apply in real life.
In most countries about 90% or so, of the business are very small, with very few employers.
Owners aren't rich, and yet they have to hire people when necessary to keep the business running. It's simply necessary. It would be amazing if hiring was 'optional,' No one wants to bleed money, if hiring wasn't essential, then the majority of people would be unemployed.
When it comes to revenue and staff requirement, only admins know what they're lacking and what they can afford to pay.
One thing you need to understand is, if any person perform a work to another without receiving real money, then that person is doing a favor. There's absolutely nothing wrong on that, if the person who is doing free labor agrees to those terms, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Any business owner would take free labor if it was a possibility presented. I don't blame the admins for taking advantage of that, but it doesn't remove their responsibilities to hire and pay, if or when necessary. | Also Mellor, I believe the vast majority of people in here agree with the sentiment that cheating is wrong.
However, until proven they're in fact cheating, they cannot be convicted of a supposed cheating. Let the administration decide, they're the most capable entity to judge the case. | until proven they're in fact cheating, they cannot be convicted of a supposed cheating
You watched too much bs law stuff bro. admins can shut ur account for any reason whatsoever if they want | How can u defend someone who constantly cheats and abuse bug?
Source: ПРТ (titans player)
If your leadership involves the top 5 leaders in the clan using bugs and scripts, numerous times and these are the times when they are caught, i assume they dont get caught half the time; then u can expect players to talk smack about the clan. I can also assume clan leaders must have skype chat or whatever they use and telling their members to also do all this illegal stuff? It's not a good look having your clan leaders doing this shady stuff over and over again, not once, not twice but multiple times. Do u think im stupid to think ur innocent and not intentionally trying to exploit glitches and bugs? you yourself know 5000 player in game why always the same people finding bugs? Please cut the nonsense, Ukraine is corrupt clan and wont stop these nonsense!
Super-Dragon punishments:
04-07-21 13:39: The player is fined 5537296 gold. //
04-07-21 12:58: The player has been imprisoned. // Personal use of a game bug
06/27/21 10:38 PM: The player has been released from prison. // Confessed,
udo 23-06-21 23:11: The player was fined 3,000,000 gold. // Using automatic scripts. Market
23-06-21 23:11: The player is imprisoned until 2021-07-07 23:11. Term of imprisonment: 14 days. // Using automatic scripts. Market
04-03-21 21:17: The player is fined 1,500,000 gold. // Using automatic scripts
03-03-21 23:41: The player is released from prison. // Admitted guilt. The penalty will be later
03-03-21 22:14: The player is imprisoned. // Using automatic scripts
22-12-20 18:51: The player is fined 5000 gold. // NP, intentionally draining combat, draining GT points, warid = 1110709670, warid = 1110709180
20-12-20 12:40: The player has been released from prison. // term expired at
17-12-20 12:35 pm: The player was imprisoned until 2020-12-20 12:35. Term of imprisonment: 3 days // warning to stop transmitting the password, joint control of characters
26-07-20 18:23: The player is fined 1000 gold. // NA: intentionally leaving the game during combat, warid = 1074864112
21-10-19 18:31: The player is fined 1,700,000 gold. // from xvxPAINxvx, under the pretext of clan crafting /forum_messages.php?tid=2739025
04-08-18 13:23: The player is fined 1 gold. // insult in personal mail sms_id = 443422319
10-07-17 12:26: The player is fined 100,000 gold. // from ko007, second warning
18-06-17 20:23: The player is fined 1 gold. // exclude the transfer of the password, any (!) common transfers from DimaMarlboro [9], ko007 [9] | Sure they can. But I don't think it's a good business practice go randomly block/delete accounts from their consumer base.
I am not... defending?... I am stating that only the admins has the best tools to judge the case?... That we are on the blindly spot here?...
Anyhow, if you feel so inclined to believe so, you should make an official report, of all these miss behavior actions and contact the administration directly, with your expertise.
That's it, I am officially done here. | Do u think im stupid to think ur innocent and not intentionally trying to exploit glitches and bugs?
Don't throw around accusations aimed at people unless you have the evidence to back it up. Yes there are people in the Ukraine management who are cheating / have been caught cheating, but this doesn't give you the right to accuse other members with no evidence. | for Meshy:
Source: ПРТ (titans player)
Anyway, back to topic, when is Day of New Hunts, you still have to do quite some skipping, and in MG quest to get really specific monster, since there is no higher probability of specific hunt, yeah in that short time could be done perhaps once with luck serum, but in a row, twice, five times, 7, ... no way, no how. Not even in a fantasy game. It isn't a question of spending diamonds, purely even if you are click happy bionic mice friendly handler couldn't be pulled off in that short amount of time. That alone is quite enough. As mellor adequately put, pure greed blinded certain cheaters to forget at that sort of "details". And yeah, accusations shouldn't be random without evidence, so no matter that there is some more fishy businesses about it and other probable abuse this alone is certain. | for kchong:
well dont talk from others behalf(Ukraine members). their leaders core group often do shady illegal stuff, ofic no penalties often aswell. but how does that make some random event guy, just like you, a cheater? | | Let me put it this way: When you surround yourself with certain people, their behavior tends to rub off. So when you are in a clan where it's leadership keeps getting caught over and over again using scripts, glitches etc. you become guilty by association, even if you play it fair and square. Because if you are playing it so fair and square then what are you doing in a clan whose leadership keeps getting caught again and again? What are you doing in such a corrupt environment? | for Meshy:
Source: ПРТ (titans player)
Everyone is responsible of what they say or write. It doesn't matter if it's a quote. | What are you doing in such a corrupt environment?
Probably the same thing people are doing in countries where corruption is rife, just living their life and not getting involved in it. | | @Meshy That is a faulty comparison. Living in a country where corruption is rife is not the same thing. Those people there living their life like you say do not get involved in it's corruption and do not associate themselves with the ones that do. But here they are involved because they decide to be in that guild. They see their leaders keep getting caught over and over again but still decide to stay there. And why is that? Because this guild gets great event prizes which they benefit from. So yes, they are complicit, even when they themselves do absolutely nothing, they still benefit from the guild prizes as in sitting and eating at the same table. | for Lawton:
Yes, we like gathering scary monsters. :P | 21-10-19 18:31: The player is fined 1,700,000 gold. // from xvxPAINxvx, under the pretext of clan crafting /forum_messages.php?tid=2739025
Perhaps this was lost in translation, but what is clan crafting? | Perhaps this was lost in translation, but what is clan crafting?
enchanting
So yes, they are complicit, even when they themselves do absolutely nothing, they still benefit from the guild prizes as in sitting and eating at the same table.
almost like choosing to stay in a country where you benefit from even though you can move :) | | the usual thing will happen jailed for a few days then release | @MKeshy The people in a country that do not want anything to do with corruption stay out of it and certainly do not benefit from it. But feel free to keep standing up for these people by trying to lighten it this way.
At the end of the day it will be business as usual. Some time in jail, a fine and a bit later the release until the next time they get caught. But only this time a lot of eyes are on it what the administration is sweating about. |
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