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Kinda get the image of the gladiator that fight the slave. It was already decided who would win.
You are as pessimistic as one of my friends. However for my personal experience, I even defeated FL 11 player when I was FL 9. And I often got many wins in a row in 2v2 when all other 3 players are at higher fsp level than me. The outcome PVP is hard to say.
As far as what I know, with your current fsp and your skill, if you were transferred to .ru, you definitely have good chance to win medal in the MT @lvl 15. |
for Berserkas:
That was hilarious. Russian's attitude to .com players can be summed up in the post #3: "Everything's okay, we'll cut them to pieces".
this is not the main topic of discussion :) |
with all the problems that might occur, the exp;fsp ratio is the least of my worries
This is my only worry.
I'd kinda agree with Khellendros. I'm fine with loosing, but, let's admit it, if you keep loosing and hardly ever win, then it gets frustrating (didn't you or your friends felt that when loosing again and again to the same player, Liuker? I, at least, did. That's just like you know you'll loose even before the end of the settlement).
Then, I'd say it's all about how much you value one faction level. The boost in raw stats alone is powerfull in itself, and it gets worse for fl dependant factions. It seems quite a hudge advantage in higher levels to me. You mention you did won in such conditions - but I'd be curious to know how often. Players skill in PvP is very heterogeneous. And even if you can, how many of us could do the same? I could fare well enough against some DU, but really wonder about 1 fl. From wiz point of view, my opponent would have 3 more ATK, DEF and a few more bonus, along with 3% higher resist. |
but I'd be curious to know how often.
quite often - although maybe not more than 50%. I can show you some examples:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_warlog.php?id=4396619&page=59
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_warlog.php?id=4396619&page=64
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_warlog.php?id=4396619&page=73
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_warlog.php?id=4396619&page=74
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_warlog.php?id=4396619&page=76
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_warlog.php?id=4396619&page=78
you can see I was a new lvl 15 player at that moment and I was almost the only player with FL 9 and I still managed to win a lot, either 2v2 or duel. Don't argue that my opponents are weak, many of them are the best PVP players in .com and got medal in the MT before. |
Sorry seems I am going off-topic.
My whole point is yes, we will be at disadvantage against .ru in PVP and something should be done to remedy this. However the disadvantage is not that horrible as some of you sound like, also simply giving away free fsp to us .com players is not realistic IMHO. |
Guys you are looking at the tree and missing the forest here...
a) We are on a server that you strive to find players to play a good PVP (3v3 or so) while on .ru, spots fill nearly automatically.
b) FSP isn't a problem in my opinion because IF there is so big of a difference, you will get those missing points sooner or later, since you can play ANYTIME and HOWEVER OFTEN you like in .ru.
c) For those elitistic people out there, .ru is a chance to prove your worthiness and if you succeed, you will be the best in a pool of thousands, not the best in a pool of hundreds :) (poke)
All in all, things will be messy at start due to the disparities but i am sure all of you will eventually value the impending merge |
Yes, we can! A merge will also have the positive effect of cheap arts and thief invitaions ;< many player may enjoy much earlier all aspects of the game. the language barrier will demand an important solution. but i think adm will care about that.
i really hope people will wait with spening their gold in rare arts and hunter arts, for example beatbane bow under 20k gold.
in relation to characters on both servers with same or different names, the player will have to decide for one main char and two additional chars or it would be senseless. i also have a character with same name on .ru
there are as well english speaking clans, so why not join or raising up a clan with this little community
hip hip hurray ;O |
Sum of ALL faction fsp for players at combat level X in .ru = A
# of players at combat level X in .ru = B
Sum of ALL faction fsp for players at combat level X in .com = C
# of players at combat level X in .com = D
Fsp gift for each combat level = (A/B - C/D) |
cheap arts and thief invitaions
very good point. in .ru TGI is like 600K whereas here is >1M.
and a 4*10 enchant cost less than 400K, here it's about twice expensive. |
in .ru TGI is like 600K whereas here is >1M.
Not really a good thing for those who bought it a 1M and will have to sell it at 600k ! |
giving away free fsp to us .com players is not realistic IMHO.
What about giving FSP based on number of battles we played? Ru players gets more fsp than us for same number of combacts. So I feel it is fair to do so. Let admins decide what amount.
Hope they do something about economy too. Everything here costs more . |
What about giving FSP based on number of battles we played?
my thinking was: RU players gets more fsp not for free, but because they fight in the event (mostly with full arts). So they spent money. The difference is that we did not have the chance to fight. |
| ^^ I agree. Although i love free FSP. I think what we need more now is chance to fight (and more features) at bigger leage. |
b) FSP isn't a problem in my opinion because IF there is so big of a difference, you will get those missing points sooner or later, since you can play ANYTIME and HOWEVER OFTEN you like in .ru.
If you mean participating in events and gaining FSP, .ru players can also get those .
I don't think extra events with same fsp ratio like other events, even if exclusively for .com players, would balance fsp( not to mention admins wouldn't give such an exclusive event) . Problem is players having same exp have different FSP. You cannot neutralise an acid by adding water, only less acidic.
From my experience, battling with min AP and full arts give same exp:fsp ratio in a type of combat . So FSP can be given based on experience earned . FSP problem wouldn't be solved if common events / exclusive events with same fsp ratio can solve FSP problem . |
Sorry a correction
Min AP battles give a little less FSP :exp ratio than full art for a same combat. |
Instead of giving us free fsp, admins could give us a chance to earn fsp faster for a period of time.
For example all our fsp gained after the merger would be multiplied by 150% for next 6 months.
That's a solution allowing us to catch up with the .ru players without an arbitrary bonus of 'free' fsp.
Details could be tweaked. 150% and 6 months are just random numbers without any maths to back it up. |
| I think .com needs about 10 different PvP tournaments, couple of PvE events and at least 1 big war BEFORE the merger, so those who have opportunity (time, gold, etc.) will be able to lessen the gap in FSP. |
| #117 if so hope they give higher than normal fsp ratio for it. |
For all who suggest giving us events to compensate fsp-
How many events have admins given us so far.. Why would they give so many events for it now? |
Events will be unrealistic.
However if we could have some extra fight against AI (just like what they have for 5 times a day) then that will do. That gives very good exp/fsp ratio and it's not hard to introduce because the codes are simple and already there. |
