| Author | Ukraine best skill guild or best cheater guild? |
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| And if anyone considers that is a feature and not a bug...i don't know what to say except: greed blinds you. It destroys game economy. |
Admins won't allow that, best case scenario whatever was looted would be deducted with some namesake warning.
I fell this is what happened,
Some person identified higher level monsters (40+) started giving higher reward most probably during mg day.Info was shared to some closed group of people who then tested its limits and found jackpot(*). |
| one of my friends said and i quote "it either takes a genius at analysis or a special type of idiot to find something like this" |
| well if these suckers get away with no extra penalty then im most definetly not gonna donate. |
Botmun did 1000+ MG battles few days ago, only about 170 ish of those were against monster quests, all of which were lower than level 10.
Slayerofall smashed the MG day a while ago, he didn't find out about this "bug".
Let's be real here, no ifs and buts -
they externally tampered something in game or reprogrammed something and These penalties are nothing
Surprised to see some different narratives here...like seriously? If this narratives are somehow credible, maybe Ukraine players are playing a very different MG than the other 5000 players. |
The bug is in admins' formula and their expectation that players wouldn't beat monsters that high.
People tried going high (who cares what way, they did it anyway) and got the rewards as set by the formula.
Sure maybe they should've reported that this is giving an unusually high reward and that is basically where the conundrum here lies - they must've known it was unintentional and continued using it anyway.
I personally think they should just fine the amount they got as rewards and unjail them but that's just me and I won't argue with anyone here :D |
| If they restored their accounts to what they were before this all happened and a 1kk fine then ok by me. For those who do not have a record of being cheaters before. For confirmed cheaters 5kk fine each. Or block. |
Do you see any regular player having pages of MG quests against monsters that give ridiculous gold reward? Nope. That's why the cap wasn't set at 99.
You then follow up by sweeping all the elements in the market. Not cheating?
Cheating is when someone is getting an advantage outside what is considered to be correct. Correct is anything inside the game design mechanics.
For example, in a shooter game with a damage system, say a bullet would do 10% damage, person cheats and deal 100% instead, by changing the code.
There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone to not sit in a MG camp, and just kept skipping non stop, until he/she plays only against monsters. That's actually fairly easy to do. Each day if you're luckily, you can face more than 1 monster. You just need to defeat same monster 50 times. So in 1 year tops, you'll be able to use this exploit.
Why no one did it before?
First reason it was unknown until now.
Second reason, requires to be both high level and have access to a very powerful rare enchanted set. High level + filthy rich is by default not common, that's why you don't see in 'ever bodies people logs'
Again, it's the admins job to properly balance their game. Punishing people from a game design that they created and allowed to happen is just stupid.
Also, monster hunt has NOTHING to do with element script. If anyone is using a illegal script, then that person should be punished for breaking the rules according. |
| I agree with Angel of Death here, with a subtle hat tip to Igles, or shall I say, the words of wise man Nebi :D |
Correct is anything inside the game design mechanics.
This is false in general and probably the biggest point of contention here. |
At the end of the day it's admins word that matters )
An general question to ask ourselves, what would we do if we found something similar which no one else knew ?
I would like to know the nobel person who would report it as a first action |
An general question to ask ourselves, what would we do if we found something similar which no one else knew ?
don't share it with anyone and use it sparingly over the years :ok_hand: |
An general question to ask ourselves, what would we do if we found something similar which no one else knew ?
I can guarantee u, I will share to forums and continue playing lmao |
I would like to know the nobel person who would report it as a first action
I'd test it a couple times, then post on .com forums for admins to see, which they obviously will because admins care to read here. |
Botmun did 1000+ MG battles few days ago, only about 170 ish of those were against monster quests, all of which were lower than level 10.
Slayerofall smashed the MG day a while ago, he didn't find out about this "bug".
Thats because when we were spamming the shit out of mg we were in min arts and using auto button. Bots lose to any monster over level 3-4(at least for me) so most monster quests are just a skip |
I'd test it a couple times, then post on .com forums for admins to see, which they obviously will because admins care to read here.
No guilt at all either, works a treat haha |
| So when will empire give pain his gold back? He's gonna buy another diamond avatar. |
Correct is anything inside the game design mechanics.
This is false in general and probably the biggest point of contention here.
I completely agree with this. "Correct" is whatever the developers decide it is. This sort of thing happens in every online game - people find an exploit, they abuse it, and then they get punished by the devs because the exploit would have destroyed the game's integrity otherwise.
I also agree with mellow that simply subtracted the exploited gold is a fine solution for first-time offenders, with larger fines or jailing for only those that already have a bad record.
Of course our opinions don't matter at all (even less than a typical player opinion matters since we aren't the Russians), but saying that something is correct just because it's in the game is silly. |
If they tampered anything externally or reprogrammed something in game there should be more fine. If that's not the case, then I feel they just discovered something that was undiscovered. Maybe they thought that high rewards were perks for clearing the high level monsters. These are my personal opinions.
Let's take an example of Roulette. There must be an algorithm on which Roulette works for sure. AI can't generate a random number from no where (according to my knowledge). Maybe the algorithm is varying and they keep changing it every 6 hours, let's say. If I crack the algorithm and make tons of gold from roulette in that time gap, did I abuse the game? I guess no. Similarly they found something that was not discovered, even they may have not known that 1kk for 100 level monster was a bug.
I hope admins can come up to a fair conclusion. Again, if there was external tampering then they deserve more fine and Maybe even block them. |
Why no one did it before?
First reason it was unknown until now.
Second reason, requires to be both high level...
Ahh I see… so the new narrative is that Ukraine players just happen to wear enchanted sets to play MG quest, and also coincidentally find out that of all MG quests, the monsters quests have a bug, and also by chance, discover the higher the level, the more gold reward.
Well, whatever we believe in doesn’t really matter – admins' love story with Ukraine surely wouldn’t end here :)
Also, monster hunt has NOTHING to do with element script.
It obviously isn’t, don’t even know why you are bringing them together. If you take a look at what was said earlier or even have quick scroll at their transfer log, you should know we are talking about how they create gold from these quests to buy more elements. You are the first to mention market script on this thread. |
