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AuthorIt started - Minimum Ammunition points required :(
Of course on the flip side of this update removing the incomplete monster packs in hunts, there will be less and less run-ins that you can beat without arts. So I dunno, we'll see in a month when everyone's hunting gets way harder.
Can someone tell me how to buy cape of flame?
I never see the amount in stock bigger than 0
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Which is exactly the problem ...
get a defender shield instead XD

Would cost around 40 gold per battle then. Quite painful really. Nothing I can't rough out but I rather not.
defender shield costs 29 gold per battle, actually ;) and provides 3 AP, so it's pretty good.
Official ask players use arts, but don't provide enough number for those players really need.

Not easy to earn money and not easy to buy arts.

What is going on?
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Ah sorry, 40 is after adding it with the Light Axe. Can't go in with only a shield, yes?
Nop, you need to be equipped with a weapon in your hand to enter battle.
So you need the Light Axe
...
Btw, last time Ive checked, Defender Shield were at 0 too :)
Have a nice day
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yeah, queuing up for one is the dumps. The admins at LEAST need to find a way to produce more of those things. >_>
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I would say about 75% of all arts are at 0 in stock
you can count out 5% that are for level 9+ player

So goodluck guys to get your arts back !
I would say about 75% of all arts are at 0 in stock
you can count out 5% that are for level 9+ pla

leaving aside the fact that 75+5=80 for the moment, arts aren't bought in shop - they are bought on the map and market. And there are plenty of them :)
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I think a lvl 8 ought to know that, It is true that some arts like the defender needs you to sit there and wait for it after a shift. Pretty irritating.
Well, I've got no problem with buying arts - just fished out 2 inspiration rings for myself - on the map, naturaly :)
i needed lots of shifts to buy my last defender shield.
refresh every 5 seconds to buy, but someone buy all production before i can buy one, and sell them on the market :(
i stopped fights for 2-3 days because of it, because i wanted my defender shield first.

i don't like players making profits on depends of others...i never buy anything to them. i would rather stop playing for a week before being able to buy my art at production site than giving only 1 gold to these players...out of question to encourage them in their bad way.
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Price on the market dropped a lot since yesterday, seems like we are producing far more than we consume.
I'm able to assist people more lately. Guess people really are thinking a lot more harder before spending some money for assists -.-

I'm highly generous so, yay XD
Some statistical data of my own.
I've tracked my hunts and merc quests after hitting combat level 7.
Currently i am lvl4 at hunters guild and lvl5 wizard. I've diamond upgrade on gargoyles and i have good miniarts on all my stacks.

I've made 38 hunts (one failed) and 20 merch quests (two failed, made 2 additional battles) totaling 60 fights.

I've also made an excel table of cost of items per battle and per AP and tried to optimize it, trying to get minimum arts to complete the task.

In hunts i've earned 5.663 gold 1 ore 3 wood, 1 hunters pendant and 1 ring of flight. After cost reduction i've earned 2.694 gold (7.144 with items), making an average per fight 72.80 (193.07)

From 18 quests i've got 2 fire crystals and 1 abrasive besides gold.
without elements my earnings after cost reduction is -1.750 and it goes positive after elements 5.250, making an average per fight -87.50 (262.50 with elements)

So my total earnings per fight (after cost reduction) are 15.74 (206.55 with items/elements).

So far it is positive, but please also note that i've mostly skipped red and yellow hunts at lvl6, waiting for lvl7 (fort upgrade) and extra talent points. Diamond upgrade and hero damage (252-360 with magic arrow, varying with the arts worn), i'm working on walk on cake hunts&quests (i've done only 2-3 yellow and 1 red one).
I'm afraid that soon my positive average will deplete, since i'll need more AP to succeed.
My minimum costs are for hunts 87 gold (in average 110), and for quests 114 gold (in average 140 gold)

Me thinks that either loot is low or item/element bonus. (in 60 fights 2 hunter items 1 MH, 1H and 3 elements 2 average, 1 low)
I don't like those figures at all Hex. =(
I take the cheapest way to get 8 AP is Light Axe, Defender Shield, Medal of Bravery and leather armour right? Think that amounts to around 70+ per battle?
Well, for the arts maybe try to find a person that can provide u the Arts u need with lower price than at the market . hehe .. Try it ...

Best regards,

Randhy
I take the cheapest way to get 8 AP is Light Axe, Defender Shield, Medal of Bravery and leather armour right? Think that amounts to around 70+ per battle?

That's the cheapest 8 AP set, true. Costs about 76 gold per battle, give or take...
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