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for VS,
give demiliches some curse or confusion? make the central talent easier accessible?reduce the cost of raising so we can free some talent points from intellect or spare some stats from knowledge?make offense talents cheaper so we can try other builds?anything that can improve our chances cause right now,at cl15, we lose badly from a lot of classes. | In my opinion facts are a little harder to establish fairly in this situation than some people are seeming to imply. It is clearly not a straight forward set up as to whether any faction is fully balanced and in truth they never can be since trying to balancce one aspect - say duels may mean another factor has an advantage in group battles. Ultimately none of us can control this, and the admins are clearly aware of it as they tweak things for balance. They have access to more data than we have, and would imagine are spending more time on it to look at it fairly. I suggest we trust in there judgement that it is as good as they can think of at the moment and do the only thing that is within each of our control - choosing the faction/s that we enjoy most and we feel give us the best chance of doing well.
With regard to any data anyone is likely to put forward there will always be issues with it that cast doubt over any conclusion drawn. Any minor toourny data has a selection pressure applied to it, only those that can afford to do it (whether in terms of time or gold) will do it. Many who know they are less skilled, or pumped or whatever may not do it and so there is likely to be a bias with the whole data set. MAny good players get there 15 battles over and done with fairly soon, so perhaps have more close fights at the beginning, while those that lost a lot but keep on going to get teh 15 wins will be carrying on as the tourney draws to a close. A good player who starts late therefore may have an advantage. IF you draw your data from other areas, say CG duels, again there is selection pressures that bias the sample, if you look at CG group battles there is the dynamic groupings that complicate matters. IF you look at group battles you will tend to not find many pumped characters as the exp:fsp ratio is not good.
Given all this doubt I would imagine none of you are going to absolutely convince anyone else of your views.
The only thing I think you can do is look at the minor tourney victories and see whether someone of your class has got a gold medal. If the answer is yes then it is possible with that faction and class to do well. It may not be easy, it may only be posssible if you are hugely pumped and get lucky, but it is demonstrabley possible.
Given that focus on what you can control and not what you cannot. Personally I am convinced that some factions and classes are better at duels than others, which ones and by how much I do not expect to ever know and the effort to try and know to a sufficient detail is too much and too boring. Anything I belive I only put down to an incling and not as a fact. I also believe that the balance is not soooo radically disjointed that I do not have a chance of getting close, should I have the time and inclination to put in the necessary ground work. IT may mean however that if winning a duel is important to me I would change my class to do so. Other than that I remember that it is a game. PArt of that game is to have some fun on a bit of banter, a good old argument is always mildly amusing, though I never like it when it goes at all ranty. | for Fallen Atheros:
You seem to take harshly an argument you used and was only turned against you.
you can keep whining and insulting me but that doesnt change the fact unholy is strong but many including you are unable to play it well.
If you think that the game is balanced if one player out of 100 is able to get 50% win rate at least against every faction, then yes... But is that truly balance, ie the best of the best facing the average player? | | Any faction can be the best; BUT definitely not the one you are playing now. © Pang | | This thread is full of shit. Everyone wants buffs... even i could ask for it and make some argument. Classic barbs - when was the last time you saw one in play? | New balancing is out, hopefully it will make everyone happy again :)
lvl16 old necro and old elf didn't seem to change, dwarfs got one red fat patty more | Have you seen lvl16 results?
https://www.lordswm.com/tournaments_hist.php?tour=309&tid=4571
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