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Author[News] Fights over taxes
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admins new toy did not get the attention they expected, so, they are trying to make it more shiny.

see, none of the top 10 clans (by income) tried to tax anyone.

this update, simply tries to exploit power imbalance and hope to create a bit more conflict.

what they will get is simply more deserters from game. think they want to decrease active player base down to a few thousand.

wonder how many lvl 20-21's will like to continue hitting facilities, where no decent response possible.

in real world, what you feel about tax collectors ?
I think the cost of 150 military glory points had more to do with it. I guess it's only benificial if you are a clan with tons of lvl 21 players, otherwise it's a bust. And since they wouldn't get much opposition I guess they upped the ante.
i totally dis-agree comment 62 and 63. you guys think so negative all the time :P

1) MC 2517 got upto level 17 player, but they taxed 12 facilities. its not about level.
2) its not about power imbalance or to decrease active players. this new update gives all MC to take part in it. i saw the other day, Even EFL tried. this new change will give MC's with no facilities to earn some gold.
Now admins just need to find a way for non military clan members to play some facility stuff. Maybe as mercenaries? or maybe robbing facilities Robin Hood style? Idk but now all military clans have a chance to make some gold off of facilities even if you don't own them. It will probably be a while but I would love to see Military Clans have the option of hiring a bunch of randoms and using them as a distraction/attack/harassment/just needing numbers.
It is interesting that now you will get less gold if you own it than if you tax it. Consequently priority has to be in defending against taxation in preference to defending the facility from survilurgs. It will render greater money to tax another facility and lose your own taxed facility, than to keep hold of a taxed one. Strangely the whole system is driven by greed, because if there is taxation Empire gets 10%. Therefore if no one taxes there is more gold available to all.

The thing I like about this is that it will probably result in more exchange of facilities and more clan vs clan attacks. However, the nature of these taxation battles seems to favour those already larger clans, with higher levels and more gold. IT also means that the prosperity of clans (which inherently from their name should be based around large numbers of people with a common identity) will significanly be affected by a few, which may not even be normally from that clan as are hired mercenaries. This doesnlt feel right to me. I generally welcome change and am a positive person, but i cannot seem to be able to see it in my head how this works out as better and more balanced over more elitist. Ho hum, enchants and rare sets needed more and less gold in the economy - no increased pressure to donate then, thats good.......
this new change will give MC's with no facilities to earn some gold.
I agree with this point
But I wonder how small clan will retaliate big brothers like titans if they own a facility.
Now imagine a clan with only 2 or 3 players above lvl 19, and they own a facility. And also this facility is taxed by a clan like Titans, (All the 6 members who do challenge will be 18+ most of the time).
Now the clan with one facility will lose half of its gold to tax, have to hire mercenaries to retaliate, and IMO, its better to lose the facility!
Some sorts of changes have to be implemented to balance the system.
It is a good implementation but I think it is still in beta phase.

Instead of increasing taxes they should have instead imposed level restrictions and set some min required AP but no restrictions of type of arts.

Half of the attacks are just blank i.e no clan wars, clan just clicks "Attack" but there is no one to fight.
Example:

https://www.lordswm.com/taxlog.php?show_history=99
https://www.lordswm.com/taxlog.php?show_history=97
https://www.lordswm.com/taxlog.php?show_history=87
https://www.lordswm.com/taxlog.php?show_history=86
for MarineBiologist:
https://www.lordswm.com/taxlog.php?show_history=99
https://www.lordswm.com/taxlog.php?show_history=97

MC #41 leased those facilities, that's why they taxed them

https://www.lordswm.com/taxlog.php?show_history=87
https://www.lordswm.com/taxlog.php?show_history=86

MC's agreed not to tax each other
for MarineBiologist:
https://www.lordswm.com/taxlog.php?show_history=99
https://www.lordswm.com/taxlog.php?show_history=97
MC #41 leased those facilities, that's why they taxed them


Kk, had no idea about that. :)
This topic is long since last update and considered obsolete for further discussions.

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