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which is better for lvl8 DE doing ambush- full arts or thief set?
full arts of course
u dont u need extra movement from thief set while ambushing
A question of interest.

Does elemental call works with mass poison spell?
^^ DE 've mass poison?

which is better for lvl8 DE doing ambush- full arts or thief set? >>> Depend on ur formation/tactics, i think thief set 'll be enough or even better.
[Post deleted by moderator Shebali // Flood, false info.]
Sais the one that has never gotten a character past lvl 6 so probably has no thieving experience at all, asks for advice at every hunt he can't handle alone and on top off all that, contradicts someone with great thieving ability.

TK_, I'd go with aru's advice if I were you.
for 65:
stop bragging nonsense
the damage bonus to neutral creatures does not apply in against caravans
@Sven91
I didn't know.
Are you sure?
Yes, 100%
Read this for prove:
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1839945
Sven is probably right, caravans are not considered neutral creatures ( probably because they come with a hero in the team ). Wizards don't get the bonus dmg vs neutral creatures on spells while doing caravans, so same should be the case for the bonus from sets vs neutral creatures.
GH don't bring any bonus on caravan. Neutral without hero. Thief set isn't that good if ambushing, because you can hit them all in 1 turn, so +1 speed is not really needed. and 10% init to hero doesn't really needed for might DE. And a thief art doesn't mean its better than art from art shop. for example thief xbow and sword of might(for sure, increase shooting range by 1 brings no effect for DE)
@69,70,71
THX, I didn't know about it.
because you can hit them all in 1 turn, so +1 speed is not really needed>>> At critical moment your minos want to hit/reach gargs quickly while keep strucked by lightnings. Full shop arts maybe 've better stats but if you can save more with thief arts, then it'll be worth to consider :)
when i turn to DE and do ambushes i wont be afraid of wizards, coz ill have 6 0r 7 fps in wiz. and some mithryl.. ill go for full arts:) ah- and about rings- double ring of inspiration is the way to go?
^^ Yup, double inspiration 'll be very good & more expensive to go :)
Maybe not afraid of wiz but there's still' ve demons gating, necro's resurrecting or powerful spellcaster DE caravans to deal with.
>>> Your gold, your choice ;)
DE needs high morale then The Shrews or Rogues can kill faster and have more turns than the others ... Ring + Luck I think is the best for DE in any battles ..

Best regards,

Ranhdy
for level >10 DE:
i have a question. why do nobody choose to be magic DE? is it really bad?
Yes, still bad.
I didn't try, but I saw battles Kiskoko, Serg777, rapra, and others. They try and only waste golf for magic arts. They quick invest in Potion of Obvilion, sell old arts and buy new (might one).
Eaven if you choice magic way with full mino (for longer battle) DE too often die first. If team win you'll get ~half exp and half skill. Most spells are not realy damage, but only support.
Better spell caster is necros, he always must have mana and some SP (for raise), but he may cast mass poison instead raise.
for LEVY:
Did you saw the battles when new arts were coming already?
i just count the amount of skill pts we get from all magic arts. it will give you 13SP and 5KN. i imagine if at level 10, you have 1 KN from start, 9 primary skill+1MG, so i make it 19SP and 10KN. if we use ele call+expert chaos original fireball would deal 220dmg, with ele call would deal 330dmg. with 10KN we can cast 5 times if with ele call(i think DE still live in 5 turns, but i don't really know). with 7 faction skill piercing would be 66%, so mithril things will be reduced too.
I mean because we don't have ranger, i think hero will be our ranger. but thx for the answer
I can't check now arts from those battles.
but I checked first one rapra had stat: 16;16;11;6
( https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=7010034 )
Mithril arts reduce more power then piercing.
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