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AuthorAttack Survilurgov ( Battles for area )
We all have had difficulties in one way or another, we can chose to troll be supportive or be silent.
well Khellendros i understand it,i will not touch that subject anymore, but as long as you and your guys indirectly attacking AnD in your Clan thread, i promise we will here(forum) at any cost.
So think before posting any indirect comment which hurting us. Sowe can chose to troll be supportive or be silent. it is up to you(s)only.
Can a clan change its name?Doesn't the names are permanent here & need diamond to change them?
Why so serious? Trolling makes things fun if you deal with it with humor, you can troll us for getting so early triple defense with only 4 mines :P

And talking about people being supportive, I could go for it if you are willing too. We are a small International community in a Russian game and all 3 big clans are not cooperating!

Now let’s be honest, apart from a personal quarrel between some of you and one member of us what else is there to excuse any hostility?

When one member of you joined to help us in a defense as a favor to a friend being member of our clan you forbade him to help us ever again! Seriously now, you forbid a clan member from doing what he wants in a game… Also right after that when we offered to help you in a double defense of yours, you refused and said you won’t cooperate with us, getting help from a Russian clan instead (not that it’s bad to be in good relations with Russian clans and I’ve seen much fair play from Russian players). Some have spoken about the diplomatic relations of .com clans to all of us gain, but unless we all change our behavior it’s a utopia :P
Exactly. And the admins are making good in implementing the difference between a martial clan and a peaceful one with this "event". It's just unfortunate that a lot of players are unprepared to face the full consequences.

If you are not a hardcore player (you are not in a MC), why do you support the idea that you should never be in a MC because they are for hardcores. I can't understand how people that feel like they don't belong to a MC (because they are Normal person with a real life, playing game in free/spare time for fun to quote naviron) think that the admins are making a good job to leave it like that and make MC just for hardcore players.

Maybe I didn't understand your point but as I understand it now, I can't see the reason for your wish.
Can a clan change its name?Doesn't the names are permanent here & need diamond to change them?
Yes, you need diamonds, and they have been ready to be collected for months.

So think before posting any indirect comment which hurting us. Sowe can chose to troll be supportive or be silent. it is up to you(s)only.
I am really not looking for an argument. If you feel that I or any other has in anyway tried to hurt you, then lets resolve it in pm's.



Why so serious? Trolling makes things fun if you deal with it with humor, you can troll us for getting so early triple defense with only 4 mines :P

And talking about people being supportive, I could go for it if you are willing too. We are a small International community in a Russian game and all 3 big clans are not cooperating!

Now let’s be honest, apart from a personal quarrel between some of you and one member of us what else is there to excuse any hostility?

When one member of you joined to help us in a defense as a favor to a friend being member of our clan you forbade him to help us ever again! Seriously now, you forbid a clan member from doing what he wants in a game… Also right after that when we offered to help you in a double defense of yours, you refused and said you won’t cooperate with us, getting help from a Russian clan instead (not that it’s bad to be in good relations with Russian clans and I’ve seen much fair play from Russian players). Some have spoken about the diplomatic relations of .com clans to all of us gain, but unless we all change our behavior it’s a utopia :P

A long post, I would prefer discussing it on Skype or pm's since I am not allowed to quote the many things I have been called by the member you speak of and also this is not the right forum. But I don't mind giving my version of it if people wanna know, they can contact me. (Sure you got the other side version now)

Triple def. is unlucky, but if it is your first then you should really not complain :D
We had a quadruple just after we got our third mine in 3 different sectors. And have had many triples.
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I would prefer discussing it on Skype or pm's since I am not allowed to quote the many things I have been called by the member you speak of
Demonising me? i am not allowed to quote what Laitha wrote to me either, after i just pointed out that she prefers to not see Lord Khele being mean to me)
She used vulgar word first, so dont make it like i am only one to blame here, thx.
Demonising me? i am not allowed to quote what Laitha wrote to me either, after i just pointed out that she prefers to not see Lord Khele being mean to me)
She used vulgar word first, so dont make it like i am only one to blame here, thx.

I just said they can get my version if they like. If they don't what do I care. They can take your word for the things that transpired. The truth is probably in the middle.

And this is going very off topic.

Back on topic. I really think they need to end the event or change it.
The entire need-2play instead of want-2play structure is getting on my nerves. Then people can say Is hould be in an MC. But previous events has suited me fine. Also events that happen earlier on .ru sounded fun as well
There is always some way out of this, like agreement of helping each other in defences, for exaple contract for 6 ppl, 2 full teams are nice;p
Demonising me? i am not allowed to quote what Laitha wrote to me either, after i just pointed out that she prefers to not see Lord Khele being mean to me)
She used vulgar word first, so dont make it like i am only one to blame here, thx.


Lies and slander, plain and simple. But i guess this is the last place you can attack me since you are blacklisted from pming me or skyping after the disgusting way you have spoken to me and about me.

Back on topic: An English speaking clans alliance? It seems like the obvious alliance and could benefit all concerned. But first the MC leadership teams need to be amicable....
I don't intend to go off topic or flame, it's on topic trying to establish a good diplomatic relationships between 3 main .com clans and even any other clan that wants some part in event but can't cope alone, instead of fighting in and off forums. Personal matters should stay personal and not be affecting whole clans.

So we offer the first hand in this and are open for negotiations to get to that goal, it's cheaper and easier to get some people to help in defenses than have 20-60 fights to take back a mine :)
Personal matters should stay personal and not be affecting whole clans.
yes, that is obvious, also ladies dont use such words, you used it laitha, fot call me a liar.
But first the MC leadership teams need to be amicable....
Sorry for double post; i am amicable to all good people, i also have nothing against Ektoras or other honest people, also trying diplomacy requires talking with the enemy too, since some of EC in lead blaclisted me, it them who dont want to talk. I am amicable, you are not, but you can always change.
As a total individual entity i comment that .com has no gr8 future withh 0 unity and mc's competing amongst themselves too much:(
After reading the last 2 page's I now realize why Russian MC's think English MC's are one big joke.

They don't need to worry about us fighting our way up, we're too busy fighting our own and destroying every opportunity we can get.

Guess it's true, foreigners are stubborn, ignorance and fools.
I now realize why Russian MC's think English MC's are one big joke.

that's not a fair comparison. Russian players are from the same country, they spoke same native language and has similar culture. Whereas players in .com community comes from people all over the world, there is language barrier, there is culture difference and many. It's very easy to generate misunderstanding and not easy to cooperate -- one may think trolling is fun and one may not agree with that. That's just natural.

After all I feel there is no need to argue which MC is better or not. There is no fair judgement. Controlled a whole sector? Hey, how many Russian MCs can do that? .com MCs have already shown their strength in this competition, we just don't have that many no-lifers as they do, that's it.
that's not a fair comparison. Russian players are from the same country, they spoke same native language and has similar culture. Whereas players in .com community comes from people all over the world, there is language barrier, there is culture difference and many. It's very easy to generate misunderstanding and not easy to cooperate -- one may think trolling is fun and one may not agree with that. That's just natural.

You did not understand my point.

They don't need to worry about us fighting our way up, we're too busy fighting our own and destroying every opportunity we can get.
They don't need to worry about us fighting our way up, we're too busy fighting our own and destroying every opportunity we can get.


I know, and what I meant is that the only major problem of .com MC is we just don't have that many no-lifers as they do. And I don't know how you are fighting your own... except on the forum. About borrowing players... I don't think it is the way to go, too costly, you can't count on this.
I think most clans have some experience of "borrowing" players from friendly clans - it works up to a point. Of course the problem is that clan members have to defend their own mines first, so if a friendly clan asks for help, it depends on if their timing is lucky.
It is good to have some kind of agreement with a few clans and help each other out occasionally, but it can't be a daily thing. Each MC has to be realistic about how many mines they can hold over an extended period of time and only ask for help when it is really needed - like the unlucky double defences that pop up from time to time.

Communications between the leading members of MCs should be the starting point. Trying to sneak in the back door and ask normal MC members to leave their clan temporarily to help out your clan is not the way.
I don't intend to go off topic or flame, it's on topic trying to establish a good diplomatic relationships between 3 main .com clans and even any other clan that wants some part in event but can't cope alone, instead of fighting in and off forums. Personal matters should stay personal and not be affecting whole clans.
The idea is good enough, but atm leaders of efl and EW don't get along. And it is easy to say that personal things should stay personal. But I play this game to enjoy myself. And I don't want to increase myself to my bully from the past (my viewpoint, but in the end I got sad and hurt and no matter who is right or wrong I don't wanna be that again, I want to have fun).

i am amicable to all good people, i also have nothing against Ektoras or other honest people, also trying diplomacy requires talking with the enemy too, since some of EC in lead blaclisted me, it them who dont want to talk. I am amicable, you are not, but you can always change.
You see it that way we see it another. In the end we can agree our relationship is not the best, so why force it?

After reading the last 2 page's I now realize why Russian MC's think English MC's are one big joke.
We are cooperating with Russian speaking clans an I have never experienced them treating me or EW as an joke, quite the opposite, they have been very respectful.

Guess it's true, foreigners are stubborn, ignorance and fools.
Weird comment, who is the foreigners. Many from Russian speaking clans are non Russian?
Also very generalising and sad comment.

After all I feel there is no need to argue which MC is better or not. There is no fair judgement.
Strongly agree

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I want this event to end or change. I and others have mentioned it in ICC, I also made some suggestion in idea section, but don't think we/I will be heard. :o(
Trying to sneak in the back door and ask normal MC members to leave their clan temporarily to help out your clan is not the way.
I was in a hurry you know. Couldnt ask Ed or you couse of blacklist, and had contact just with 1 person.
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