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Ah I see. Yeah, Sprites are far better than efk when it comes to summoning lol. |
ElfMoon ~
Sorry to bump your question from the most recent page. If you are the one getting ambushed you will have a very difficult time. The best you can hope for is if they make a mistake.
Then again, you have certainly had more level 10 experience vs. Knights than I have... so take my opinion with what you already know :) |
| I mean i catch them in an ambush. so far my record vs full art knight with guardians = 100% lose. sad case |
| Hmm, yes full arted guardians are very tough. Do you have a link to a few examples? Perhaps we can brainstorm a strategy :) |
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=476240319
above is full defend type knight and i fav on monk (in case catch cavaran)
i just defend my grandmaster bowmen with 1 stack druids. this is because guardians and monk have low speed. i try to splite some efk to take reta, but griffins take out 12 efks 1st, and with 38 efks just kill 3 guardians. |
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=475304401
2nd. holy magic knight. with mass rapid, guandian ini improve alot and with strong range defend. bowmen totally useless (25 bowmens kill 1 guardian per shoot and it's IN RANGE) this fight we both did some misstake like i use efks hit on crossbowmens and same with the knight use monk hit druid. |
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=6967429
3rd. escort knight. lost 5 sprites everytime attack -__-" |
| If you have the time to wait a day, I will be able to review these tonight and give an opinion :) |
Of course. i have a lot of time to wait ;D
Between, if anyone won full art knight with guardians, please let me know. u can post the battle link here or private mail me. thanks a lot :) |
| not going to happen, it's very hard to get more attack on efks than guardians deffence. |
That's i hate guardians.
They are evil :P |
For ElfMoon:
I watched and re-watched your 3 combats. I saw that in the second you almost made it.
Firstly, I couldn't see you trying to change your favorite enemy for the guardians. They may have a big defense, but they cannot match luck and favorite enemy in the same time.
Secondly, the guardians, by default, don't have strong attack, but they get enraged every time you kill one ally. So, try to minimize them before it's too late.
Thirdly, you could use a little bit more initiative. Pray that the griffin will attack your only stack of druids (they are pretty weak in attack against the druids) and focuse on the guardians and monks with your unicorns, efk's and sprites, while with your bowmen kill his archers.
I don't say it could work this strategy, but at least you can try. If the outcome is worse, I apologize. I haven't had too many contacts with knights.
One more thing. They tend to escort their griffins, so, let the griffins survive as long as you can afford. You can also try to fake an attack on them to force the player to escort the griffins. |
Those all look pretty difficult. Fully arted guardians seem to be an amazing tank. In most PvP you don't have to worry about them until they catch up to you... but in a Thief mission they are right there amongst the fray.
However I would like to point out that in all three battles your opponent's arts were superior in some way. Probably for the purpose of hunting Thieves. As far as I can tell you were at a disadvantage anyways.
If I were to say that you needed to improve anything it would be mana. Being well-rounded in magic and strength can be very helpful. A little more mana could have afforded you one Dispersion in that second battle; and even a raise would have been enough to win. If you couldn't disperse Evasion, go in with your bows for melee to take retals for your raised units... or vice versa. The morale bonus may not seem worth it but sometimes it's worth the risk.
Otherwise, as I said... you were out-arted. Even in an evenly arted match those Guardians would be a challenge; but much more doable. |
for CGSMCMLXXV:
I couldn't see you trying to change your favorite enemy for the guardians
In case catch cavaran. fav on monk is better ))
Secondly, the guardians, by default, don't have strong attack, but they get enraged every time you kill one ally. So, try to minimize them before it's too late.
If they use small stack to take reta on ur efk, ur efk gone faster way.
Thirdly, you could use a little bit more initiative. Pray that the griffin will attack your only stack of druids
I not rich :P
and i never fought with knight using griffins to attack druids xDOne more thing. They tend to escort their griffins
One more thing. They tend to escort their griffins, so, let the griffins survive as long as you can afford. You can also try to fake an attack on them to force the player to escort the griffins.
They will tend on guardians or monk, but not griffins. |
| After think twin. Is that worth let small stack survival and efks beside guardians. If they use small stack to take reta on efk, battledance will hit the guardians. (50% damage) |
just a few thoughts about your battles:
first of all, protect your forest keeper from griffins
it can't be possible that griffins attack your forest keeper before they crush into the crowd
as far as i remember it was at least one time the case that you lost (https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=476240319)
so i would use 2 single forest keeper to cover your big stack
even if griffins go blocking the path forest keeper are fast enough to move to the enemies heart
second it may prove useful if you get some sprites too
your total damage won't change that much i suppose and you might lose some hitpoints in total but if the enemies guardians/xbow hit your stack (maybe even with luck) your not totally screwed (because it was only nearly half of your melee army)
also, sprites attacking-retreating might work for some turns against guardians (if they don't have escort of course)
and i experienced there are many player out there who run crazy if they face some sprites so they focus on killing your sprites while your fk can clear the field. And try to attack with your efk those stacks who will retail not much. so if there are 30xbows and 1 xbow standing near each other attack the 1, you will damage both equally (afaik - at HoMMV you would do only half damage to all other enemies surrounding you) but you won't get retal dmg.
shooting on guardians is nearly useless, better use your arrows on enemies archer/monks. And what has really proven useful - shoot griffins! don't attack them at melee. They are large so you might get them in range
i hope i was able to help |
so if there are 30xbows and 1 xbow standing near each other attack the 1, you will damage both equally
Actually you would only do half damage to the stack of 30. Battledance: 100% damage to target, 50% damage to all others on adjacent squares.
True it might be best to go about not taking too much damage from retals; but I would imagine with even arts you'd take down a good number of those xbows. Especially with a lucky hit. |
I am nearly lvl 8 and i as wonderig what is the best combination of talents in peoples opinions. I have narrowed it down to:
expert luck
advanced luck and RoA
Vitality and RoA
Vitality and basic luck
possibly.... rally |
expert luck
or basic leadership + rally
Personally, i used expert luck all the time |
| i am a elf if add luck my army will be luck????? |
