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wow they done it again, lol getting sector 2 times with in 12hr.
Congrats EFL
https://www.lordswm.com/clan_info.php?id=7490
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Now comes the difficult part :) +2 more defend per day | I have a suspicion that this is not merely a game but a sort of social experiment. The constant facility defense will segregate the casual players from the hardcore players. I believe that once all the features have been implemented, all players in martial clans will be hardcore and peaceful clans (or no clan) players will be casual, more or less. If you're having problem finding the time to defend your facility, you may not be hardcore enough. Nothing wrong with that. I'm a casual player myself.
I strongly disagree.
Now, lets take a situation where a clan, with 250 members, holds a sector, 4 facilities.
4 facilities x 2 attacks per day x 7 teams in an attack x 3 players in a team x 30 days = 5040 players in combat.
Per month.
5040 combats / 250 players in a MC = 20 combats per a clan member.
An that is an average.
Some of players will play much more ofc, probably like 70-100.
So, lets say that other players need to play 10 combats per month.
One combat every third day.
Now do not tell me that you cannot play that, please.
Since most of the clans give refunds for a successful defense, amount of gold spent on a combat is, like, 2 enrolls.
For full arts ofc, meaning the best arts money can buy for your combat level, without enchants.
So lets say that a player do not want to spend 2 enroll time and 1 combat, in 3 days, for the sake of his clan.
I do not call that player "non-hardcore", i call him "inactive".
Now, some players may chose to help their clan with offering repairing, or enchanting services, or donating money.
But to be honest, ALL of .com clans are full of inactives, and semiactives.
This event will not separate "hardcore" from "non-hardcore" players, it will separate active players from those who are not.
But thats ok really, the beauty of this game is in allowing everyone to find his small part of fantasy.
In most of the other games, if you are not active, you get erased.
I erased lots of them. :)
I personally believe that .com players can have no more then 2 competitive MC.
And that is ok, because i think that, if attacks on other others facilities is going to be implemented, and i think they will, defenses will become more often, and any decent MC will HAVE to chose to attract active players.
Any MC who strives to be competitive to russian MCs, i mean.
Seems to me A&D is on best way to become one such MC, and i am really proud to be part of that community. We are not only attracting active players but always trying to help them achieve best results, by educating them.
One more thing.
Event battle give the best fsp/xp ratio, that you can currently get.
So it is in every characters best interest to play this battles.
You remember those "monster russians" with heaps of fsp?
They did that by playing events.
This is the best chance to narrow the gap between you.
Use it.
I would really like this event gets permanent actually. | This is the best chance to narrow the gap between you.
Russians are not siting idle for you to catch them.damn you're so clever! | Now do not tell me that you cannot play that, please.
Many object to the nature of the event. So far LWM has been a game you can play when you want, now you have to fight when defence are up.
Since most of the clans give refunds for a successful defense, amount of gold spent on a combat is, like, 2 enrolls.
For full arts ofc, meaning the best arts money can buy for your combat level, without enchants.
Still it is costly and compensation may not always be enough. Your clan lost at least one player using this as one of the reasons.
I personally believe that .com players can have no more then 2 competitive MC.
Still think in .com and not .com
I prefer english speaking an non english speaking as many ".ru players" had accounts on both servers an just chose the .ru one. In the end the language is what creates to communities now not a vulcano or an ID number.
Seems to me A&D is on best way to become one such MC, and i am really proud to be part of that community. We are not only attracting active players but always trying to help them achieve best results, by educating them.
Think most MC members feel their MC is the best, otherwise they would be a different one :D
Funny enough I think mine is the best or I would have joined another ;)
Event battle give the best fsp/xp ratio, that you can currently get.
So it is in every characters best interest to play this battles.
The ratio is not great and you don't improve guilds. If you are going to play for your self then the MT seems like a better option. Better ratio and CG points.
I would really like this event gets permanent actually.
You are one of the few and I feel sure that the avg. online numbers will drop since many people (also hardcore ones) play LWM because you could play when you wnat not when you need. | I am. :)
They are having xp penalties, and you are not. :)
Since they are more active, the gap is smaller every day.
It will never vanish, ofc. | "Still it is costly and compensation may not always be enough. Your clan lost at least one player using this as one of the reasons"
They gained one too... | If you are going to play for your self then the MT seems like a better option. Better ratio and CG points.
Nonsense, I can provide links to prove it is wrong.
Minor tourney:
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=553604757
10965 xp and 7.92 fsp, or 1384 xp per fsp.
Event defence:
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=554202525
4117 xp and 3,86 fsp, or 1066 xp per fsp.
30% less then minor.
Ratio can differ based on the type of opponent you encounter, but it is still much better then minor.
And lets be honest, CG bonuses are the least useful, or easy to obtain of all guilds.
You are one of the few and I feel sure that the avg. online numbers will drop since many people (also hardcore ones) play LWM because you could play when you wnat not when you need.
Not true again.
Nothing really changes for inactives.
Average inactives will do same as before, no one forces them to join defense.
But in time i guess there will be much less of them in MCs, at least those serious ones.
Since there are rumors about implementing attacks on survilurgs by non-MC players, they will get their chance to fight also
If they want, but facility defenses gives much better ratio, and are cheaper, then attacks on survilurgs.
Every clan has "safe time" which he can set as they want, to prevent attacks on their facility in most serious off-peak hours.
Only thing that matters is activity and discipline of MC members.
In any MC team based event.
In the end the language is what creates to communities now not a vulcano or an ID number.
Nonsense, my clan has several .ru characters, and we communicate just fine.
Some are good in english, some are not very good, but when there is a will, there is a way. :)
Activity of its members is what creates communities, not language.
At least in computer games like this one.
Your clan lost at least one player using this as one of the reasons.
damn you're so clever!
Funny enough I think mine is the best or I would have joined another ;)
No offense, but we actually do have a way of measuring the strength of a clan.
All you have to do is open the profile of the clan and look at the number and health of its facilities. | The ratio is not great and you don't improve guilds. If you are going to play for your self then the MT seems like a better option. Better ratio and CG points.
how many MT you can join with in 2-3 month, i agree CG but you may get fsp monster or DU depends up on lvl. i know many develop anti skill upto fsl 6-7 for more than 3-4 faction.
Guild improvement,not all are looking for all guilds. | Nonsense, I can provide links to prove it is wrong.
My mistake didn't notice you where only level 11.
My last 4 battles give me
Event
win 2553
loss 3798
MT
1943
1808
Not true again.
Nothing really changes for inactives.
Average inactives will do same as before, no one forces them to join defense.
But in time i guess there will be much less of them in MCs, at least those serious ones.
Since there are rumors about implementing attacks on survilurgs by non-MC players, they will get their chance to fight also
If they want, but facility defenses gives much better ratio, and are cheaper, then attacks on survilurgs.
The nature of the game is changing, and it has already made people consider leaving.
Nonsense, my clan has several .ru characters, and we communicate just fine.
Some are good in english, some are not very good, but when there is a will, there is a way. :)
Activity of its members is what creates communities, not language.
At least in computer games like this one.
You started out by saying
.com players can have no more then 2 competitive MC. that is an outdated view. There are clans and forums that uses different language. My clan use english but we have people from all around the world as well.
No offense, but we actually do have a way of measuring the strength of a clan.
All you have to do is open the profile of the clan and look at the number and health of its facilities.
No offence but you focus on one little area, we can focus on many
Monthly income:
746 440 (EW)
558 185 (AnD)
Ability to caputure sector with out outside help?
EFL and EW has done that. AnD used around 1.3kk on it, if memory serves correct. Over 2 months of income!!
Biggest Depo, EW has that
Best arts, EW has that
Most glory points, And has that
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As you can see there is many factors, but to be honest I chose my clan after structure, friendliness and members and I think EW is the best (That is why I am in it). And you may chose after mine health (That is why you are in AnD)
There is no one truth, so when you say AnD is the best that is your view.
So as I said
Think most MC members feel their MC is the best, otherwise they would be a different one :D
Funny enough I think mine is the best or I would have joined another ;) | Your monthly income won't account for much if;
1.) You are losing facility defenses
2.) You are playing Tourneys while your Clan has upcoming defenses... | Your monthly income won't account for much if;
1.) You are losing facility defenses
2.) You are playing Tourneys while your Clan has upcoming defenses...
1.) We have hold the sector a lot longer than you have (First English speaking clan to get one)
2.) I have done 209 defence you have done 9
This is turning into a silly argument, and there is no need for it. All MC have different strength and saying which is best is an personal thing.
My personal view is that this event has gone on long enough and that I don't like the way it is now turning into playing when you need-to-play instead playing when you want-to-play. If they wont end it, they should change it. This is getting old very fast. | There is no one truth, so when you say AnD is the best that is your view.
since the merge, there have been 2 events -
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1999162
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1985479
AnD play for fun and not for gold | since the merge, there have been 2 events -
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1999162
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1985479
AnD play for fun and not for gold
Again you start talking about which clan is best. My point is that there is many factors and which is best is in the eye of the beholder.
You clanmate thought health of mine was best. You think a leader boards is best.
What is true? There is no universal answers :D
In the end
most MC members feel their MC is the best, otherwise they would be a different one :D
Funny enough I think mine is the best or I would have joined another ;) | Biggest Depo, EW has that
better say EC, or hybrid clan who already rich before merge
Best arts, EW has that
same answer, only thing is foreigner(wgw) come with 3million and demonic solider set
Most glory points, And has that
better check it again :)
Ability to caputure sector with out outside help?
capturing is not count, but how defending it counts.
Monthly income:
746 440 (EW)
558 185 (AnD)
you forgot that total enroll post for EC oh EW is less than our crystal mine :)
your facility is almost producing 80-90% of total, but ours are still in 50%, once we loaded money in that
2013-08-05 00:01: Based on previous day results for defending map facilities (102, 163, 228, 245), the clan is awarded 36258 gold.
PS: no offense sorry | you forgot that total enroll post for EC oh EW is less than our crystal mine :)
your facility is almost producing 80-90% of total, but ours are still in 50%, once we loaded money in that
2013-08-05 00:01: Based on previous day results for defending map facilities (102, 163, 228, 245), the clan is awarded 36258 gold.
PS: no offense sorry
I look at previous month income (Not even calculated the huge cost of mercenaries). But here you just proved my point agai, there is infinity ways of measuring strength. But do we really need to keep arguing this. I know you like AnD that is why you joined. But saying it is the "best" is ofc a very subjective thing.
And saying that our result don't count because it resulted in a merge of two clans? That is beyond my logic :D | There is no one truth, so when you say AnD is the best that is your view.
I am truly sorry, i meant no disrespect to you as a player, or your clan.
Nor am i saying that your clan is not good.
Just saying that AnD is more successful in events.
Most active, if you like it that way.
Every clan has great players, you guys are doing miracles, with your resources.
But the real strength can be measured.
If you can not accept the results, well, i am sorry.
And it is really not polite to say things like that to _Huntress_.
She is a part of our clan for only several days, funny you forgot to say that.
She came from LoS just and i did, and i can tell you i made right decision when i joined AnD.
I miss my friends from LoS, but i am glad i have a chance to play interesting battles with my new friends.
And hope that everyone who thinks the same will join to a friendly community, like i did.
No matter what clan they join.
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can moderator ban someone for good?
if so, please ban my alt :)
so i dont do stupid things any more :( | I pitty the fools who think their only joy or means to outshine the rest of the MCs in this game, is this obviously silly event.
And i pitty them a lot when they say that the best fsp/xp ratio out there is this event. Keep fightng at this event and let the rest seek better ratios elsewhere. FYI by the way, ask the majority of the players out there what they think of that event before generalizing your opinions...
And i pitty them even more when they dare to speak to people that were already fighting when they got there on their shiny ships. We have fought timetravelling knights, creatures of the sea, DE warlords, and even tamed steppe warriors and way before that, the mighty dwarves you now use and call "cheater" class (at FL9 ofc).
And i will pitty them the most when they have lost all their hard earned money in this silly event and they are unable to catch up with the rest (the majority) of the other players in the game, that have already build faction resistances and are enjoying OTHER faction castles as well
And as any self respecting troll would say...nuff said. | what I find most interesting in this thread (lately) is :
one of the finest warriors of .com morphing into a forum warrior.
Joke aside, guess even mighty Khellendros started to feel tired (same true for me) of this non-ending, higly unpredictable defence structure.
Lets admit, its designed to burn gold an diamonds, in return supplying good fsp and (somewhat unwanted) XP. But its also a good test of organisational skills of MC's.
As the results speaks, (imo) 3 english speaking clans have almost same success as of now, all holding a sector.
I fail to understand this "who is the best English Speaking clan" masquarede.
Getting a sector fast involves some element of luck, see even Titans still waiting for their chance to complete their region.
Holding sector at hand (or at high health) also requires some good luck, online numbers vs defence frequency etc etc.
Look up in MC clans list. Those guys (and ladies) keeping 10+ facilities. We all are still wayy behind. | I pitty the fools who think their only joy or means to outshine the rest of the MCs in this game, is this obviously silly event.
And i pitty them a lot when they say that the best fsp/xp ratio out there is this event. Keep fightng at this event and let the rest seek better ratios elsewhere. FYI by the way, ask the majority of the players out there what they think of that event before generalizing your opinions...
well you must the say this..don't you?
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