| Author | [Mirror] Lords&Heroes. FSP gap. |
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Upon drinking this magical potion, the following effect occurs: for active faction, the skill level of the imbiber will be equal to the highest skill level of that faction among current combat participants minus one. Active faction is the faction chosen when this potion is imbibed; the effect lasts for 7 days.
If I see it correctly:
scenario 1:
Lets say I change from Necro (FSP lvl 8 now) to DE (FSP lvl 1) and drink that potion (making DE active boosting faction),
Lets say I am going to duel Necro with FSP lvl 9 and 0 in DE (me being DE now)
I got nothing from that potion since I already got higher DE lvl than him
scenario 2:
Lets say I drink that pot as Necro (making Necro boosing facrion) and then switch to DE for same opnoent.
I got nothing for Necro as it is his lvl -1 already,
I got nothing for DE since it is not boosing faction
It is still in favor of opponent.
Scenario 3:
I drink that potion as DE,
I fight Necro with equal distribution (lets say FSP lvl 5 or 6 across the board)
I end up with Necro:8 as it is now (defence against him) and DE: 4 or 5 (his lvl -1) for bonuses to my army.
He got Necro: 5 or 6 for bonuses of his troops and DE: 5 or 6 for defence against me.
I end up with 15-18% more reduction than him, but -2% initiative bonus (or -1 def, -1% ini) so it is in my favor now.
Scenario 4:
I drink potion as DE to fight another DE (FSP lvl 9 - single faction)
I end up with DE 8 against DE 9 - same situation as me as Necro fighting Necro from scenario 1 - and I am loosing +1% initiative, +2 attack, +2 defense.
Results:
For same faction duels potion is trying to lvl you equally but the higher opponent lvl the less equal it gets anyways.
For fighting other than someone with equal distribution of FSP and you not as your main, potion makes same sense as above.
The only usefulness of that potion is when you play not as your main and facing someone playing as your main but with equal distribution of FSP. |
If nothing else, there is potion in the artifact shop:
https://www.lordswm.com/art_info.php?id=skill_drink
Why should i buy a potion when i must have higher fsp in general,its not players fault,its admins |
| They abandoned us long time ago..Now we have to pay 12k just to cover that hole? |
for theCr0w:
scenario 1: Wrong. You will get 8 fsp (actual opponent fsp-1)
scenario 2: Wrong. You got nothing for necro not cause as it is his lvl -1 already but because you r not necro no more, potion on necro dont work anymore.
Scenario 3: Right.
Scenario 4: Right. |
scenario 1: Wrong. You will get 8 fsp (actual opponent fsp-1)
He drank the potion before switching factions. So it will have no effect. |
karamba:
so it works as: active faction (one that potion was used on) got boost up to opponent faction -1 - no matter what opponent I am facing?
how about that part:
the skill level of the imbiber will be equal to the highest skill level of [b]that faction[b/]
if I use it on DE it takes faction skills in DE of my opponent - not his active faction FSP lvl, or the wording is incorrect |
There is no gap.
If you are bellow average, you get more fsp in the same battle.
Therefore its not really an issue.
I used to be below average, then i spent a year in thief guild.
Now 12 barb skill, and 5-6 other fractions on level 17.
And all of it is useless, because there is no balance on higher levels. My fraction can only kill elves, who don't go there either. When a dark demon can easily kill everyone except necromancer. |
2000 extra fsp points is not an issue?
lol :') |
There is no gap.
If you are bellow average, you get more fsp in the same battle.
Therefore its not really an issue.
You clearly don't understand the game mechanics and the circumstances that we had in .com
First of all the Gap needs to be huge b4 the mean reverting effect takes place and it will stop long time before the char is competitive again
We got worse than 10000 to 1 ratio for Tg before the merge. It was not us being lazy or stupid, we just didn't have all thye bonus that you do here.
After the merge I have to work less for things and still get better reward than before.
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Some may not have a problem with this not being fixed. But the .ru players that wants fair fights and the .com players who has worked hard to be competitive just to have it taken away by chance, feels strongly that this needs to be fixed. It might not be the easiest or the most popular solution but it would be the most fair. |
hi guys. don't want to enter your discussion. just wanted to tell you about my fsp gain within this 1 month:
I have almost acquired 300~400 FSP during this time. and not a single diamond purchased until now meaning i haven't gained the fsp with extra money. the fsp balance in game is making it better for me and like to continue it. I don't see why i have to be behind .ru characters. Lets move faster. |
We got worse than 10000 to 1 ratio for Tg before the merge. It was not us being lazy or stupid, we just didn't have all thye bonus that you do here.
Kind sir, i had my tg level 8 with 1 to 16,000 ratio :)
If you compare, there is a 2k gap between players on my level.
I know that this is a big issue for you guys, but i don't see admins doing anything about 200 players, who are not benefiting from this.
It is a third year (yes, you read correctly) when barbarian fraction on a top level is in shit(pardon my french). That is my opinion.
We have players who reached level 17 with 15,000 fsp.
If they give you free points, then what about those? If you spend a year in new TG, you will have better than average fraction skills.
We all had to do it at some point on ru. So, i think now its your turn. |
There is no gap.
If you are bellow average, you get more fsp in the same battle.
Therefore its not really an issue.
RU Lvl 13 Necro
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=131341
Com Lvl 14
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4595942
Now,what were you saying? |
for Fallen Atheros:
All i'm saying - is you guys should not hope that there will be a fix by admins.
Play TG and events where the ration is about 2,000 to 1. And in a couple of moths this will not be a problem. I apologies for the firs post. Yes, there is a gap - but try to fix it yourself, do not hope for help from gods of this world :) |
Now, what were you saying?
We have to campare only average values. Otherwise
Com LvL 3 Lord Ethereality
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4385827 |
We have to campare only average values.
Okay we compare average value at lvl 14 but wait...when lvl 13(5m less exp) has 1300 more fsp than lvl 14,don't you think someting is wrong?
and please don't keep posting Ethereality profile,he is just ONE player and he used old game mechanism and thats no longer possible
but there milions of ru players with more fsp and less exp |
We have to campare only average values. Otherwise
Com LvL 3 Lord Ethereality
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4385827
You are right, the fact is that average .com players has worse ratio, and we got worse ratio tahn you did on .ru
Ethereality used a loophole a long time ago when it got closed he left, cannot see what he has to do with the situation, so far I have heard no argument to why .com players should have it harder?
I believe that .ru player are just as good as .com so cannot see why .com players should play on a higher difficulty
All i'm saying - is you guys should not hope that there will be a fix by admins.
Think you are right, but that don't change that this is unfair and make it less fun for both the one with the give-away victories and for the one who stands little chance. |
All i'm saying - is you guys should not hope that there will be a fix by admins. • I dont expect it to be fixed.
Play TG and events where the ration is about 2,000 to 1. And in a couple of moths this will not be a problem. • The same problem will still exist as both .com players & .ru players will be increasing their fsp. So yes, as a .com player, I will gain fsp faster than before but the gap will still remain for the majority of players. Those .com (.ru) players with below average fsp will get increased gains (why do they deserve this) until they catch up a little and then just maintain the gap.
With current system the very best .com players will initially be "greatly" disadvantaged but after time they will reach a time when they are are just "very" disadvantaged and then will not improve further (relatively). |
@55
Character went offline at 11:24, 01-21-12
2009-05-22 08:20: • Elves-brigands {0} vs Ethereality[2]
-last online on 21st january 2012.
-last time he abused fsp/exp ratio of losing to neutrals was in 2009
-after 2009 he had only 3 battles, giving him level 3.
spoiler:
#55 is a troll
#54 is also a troll ( there is a gap - but try to fix it yourself, do not hope for help from gods of this world :) )
and this thread is pointless. no admin will listen to our problems and no .ru player will contribute to our cause. with this thread you can only waste time and nerves. i'd rather lose none. |
#Vindrider
How many events we had in the past?
I could count them all with my 2 hands |
