| Author | Is Disruption ray spell overpowered? |
|---|
then you can avert this spell casting Antimagic.
and this is a goddamn powerful spell, which cost only 7 mana!
Does Anti-magic remove already casted Disruption ray spells? |
| YES, Disruption ray is a powerful spell. but one can take other talents to overcome them. |
Why it cant be 1*12 for a few turns?
Why do it need to be exactly the opposite of holy?
If you did that it would be weaker than SS, since any creature with less than 12 defence would be hit less.
Also dwarf have many units that cannot be dis-rayed so dis-ray build is weak against random opponents if you draw a dwarf
----------------
It is balanced and the time spend in this thread would be better spend in asking questions in tactics thread on LWM or in your MC. Instead of trying to create a problem which don't exist.
There is many ways to beat dis-ray build like there is to beat any other build. OFC some duels match up is unlucky and some build/faction have a hard time against other builds but that is not just apply against dis-ray. |
to Khel and Pang:
you guys can ignore these people.
they dont post these kinds of questions to find answers, they only kindle the community. what ever answers you give they are not going to listen. |
Does Anti-magic remove already casted Disruption ray spells?
no. |
Hah Good spirit eddy :) I didnt ask a question for some one to answer it. Its for discussion and how most of the ppl feel about it. Or do you really think that 'COMMUNITY' is just a few people?
for Khellendros:
Here is my problem: against a disruption necro I find my winning chance = 0% (from the past experience) .
So If ur statement of 'BALANCED' is true,then it shows that Im the weakest player in all those battles.( May be thats a fact. I have to accept it some day :P) |
Here is my problem: against a disruption necro I find my winning chance = 0% (from the past experience) .
Have you tried pure offense? i think you haven tried yet.
i wonder why people discuss *confused*
i thought to find some answers.
And players like Khel and Pang are highly exp knights, i dont know what is troubling you to understand. |
i can see 560 people online, do you want all of them to comment here?
i bet you wouldn't listen to a level 3 player :P |
well...if i don't know how to play against disruption ray, it doesn't make that spell OP... its just that i need to figure out a way against that spell...
and what i understood by this thread topic that some people want disruption to be a duration spell or weak in strength so they can defeat necro or dark magic casters easily :D.... can't you just request your opponents to let you win the battle without fight :D .... if that what you want...
i fought against a knight who was complaining about me being dark caster and not using nature magic in PVP battles....lol.... So if you can defeat someone easily then he has perfect talents but if you can't defeat him because you don't know how to then their spells are over powered...
come on... i always have hard time in duels against demons or DE with 4 morale... now why morale is so overpowered limit max morale to only 2 so i can defeat them easily....
anyone else wants changes in any other faction skill or talents or spells can post here... :) |
| ohhh By the way what i meant to say is that game is balanced. :) |
And players like Khel and Pang are highly exp knights, i dont know what is troubling you to understand.
Pls put some links of a knight defeating a disruption necro(Duel) here. So I can learn from it :) |
I wouldn't expect necros to anything else but belittling and ridiculing such discussion. And that's exactly what happens.
As concerns advice from players like Khel and Pang are highly exp knights, I respect Khel's opinion. However, Pang should do some full arted PvP combats first. It's one thing to know the path, and a different to walk the path... everyone can theorise PvP combats, but you won't really know until you put your food in the ground.
I am not discussing balance issues and not suggesting any change. I only relate experience accumulated from my lvl 12 CG 2x2 combats, linked to the case:
* most people setting up CG's atm are necros, and they win most times unless they face another necro
* fewest ppl playing and winning CG's on lvl 12 are knights.
* my hardest combats are against necros and I lost them all -- except if his teammate was knight! (lol) |
| What I'd like to see are Demons winning against Knights using Disruption ray. If I remember the statistics correctly, Demons suffered horribly against Knights in the last Minor tournament. I'd like to use this "overpowered" spell against those evil Knights! XD |
I wouldn't expect necros to anything else but belittling and ridiculing such discussion. And that's exactly what happens.
how about i start to question wizard's talents or skills ??....i bet then you will find wizards belittling and ridiculing such discussion |
What I'd like to see are Demons winning against Knights using Disruption ray. If I remember the statistics correctly, Demons suffered horribly against Knights in the last Minor tournament. I'd like to use this "overpowered" spell against those evil Knights! XD
Exactly.. Demons are too weak that they cant even use this overpowered spells to win against knight or any other defensive factions(Dont know about whats their chances are against elves,DE etc). That also need to be discussed.(Empowering demons to balance all the factions). But in another thread may be :) |
I want to stress than in duels there is often match up there is hard for some factions!
But that don't mean that faction/builds that is good against your faction/build is OP
I suggest playing 2x2 for avoiding this rock-paper-scissor game
I am not discussing balance issues and not suggesting any change. I only relate experience accumulated from my lvl 12 CG 2x2 combats, linked to the case:
* most people setting up CG's atm are necros, and they win most times unless they face another necro
* fewest ppl playing and winning CG's on lvl 12 are knights.
* my hardest combats are against necros and I lost them all -- except if his teammate was knight! (lol)
The problem is that we are such a small server that a couple strong heroes/players can make it seem that one faction is stronger than it really is.
At level 12 in the 4th MT Necromancers had the following winning procentive against following factions
Knights: 31,58%
Wiz: 38,89%
Elves: 44,44%
Bar: 40%
DE: 42,11%
Demons: 23,08%
These are based on very low numbers so I will include a Russian MT
(bigger number so more accuracy, but still statically low) Also it was from b4 the last balance change wich strengthen barbs
In the .ru they had in a previous MT
Knights: 50,99%
Wiz: 47,71%
Elves: 54,32%
Bar: 70,61%
DE: 59,52%
Demons: 50,00%
Dwarf: 66,67%
They show that on .com Necro is very underpowered and on .ru they are slightly OP. This indicate that faction alone don't determine winner.
But these numbers also shows that there is no 100% victory and that the game is balanced while still separating the faction and making them fun
-----------------------
I can also link to many many threds claming that something is OP or to weak, they are often claiming the excact opposite.
In the end it is the strategy+tactics and not factions that determine the victor! |
| AND you always have option to switch faction if you think necro are so overpowered.. see it by yourself :) |
| why the thread turned into OP Necro instead of OP dis.ray?))) |
Exactly.. Demons are too weak that they cant even use this overpowered spells to win against knight or any other defensive factions(Dont know about whats their chances are against elves,DE etc). That also need to be discussed.(Empowering demons to balance all the factions). But in another thread may be :)
We're not talking about Demons here specifically. We're talking about disruption ray being overpowered. And think about this: if Demons are already "too weak" like you say they are, wouldn't it make them even "weaker" if disruption ray was even weakened further? Weakening disruption ray to address your own problem against Necromancers will disrupt everyone else's balance. |
why the thread turned into OP Necro instead of OP dis.ray?)))
People talked about necro using that build on level 12
If you are talking about dis-ray being OP in general, then I want to note that almsot non demons/DE use that build and very few knights as well
For necro it is also somewhat rare on most level. |
