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The unit where most knights would max out for most battles. But almost 70 Apparitions, 60 Cerbs are definitely comparable, if not better, to 100 Guards.
This is exactly my point - the overall weakness of knight troops is compensated for by high numbers. I voted as if there were equal numbers of creatures (i.e. 10 appas, 10 cerbs, 10 guards). Knight creatures are weaker in this comparison, which is made up for by higher numbers.
On higher tiers you can't really have larger numbers, they would have to be really under-powered for that (eg. skeletal dragon). I was speaking mainly for the lower tiers - recruits, xbows, and guards. I believe griffins too are on the high side (though not the highest) on "middle levels", but I'm not sure about that. I know you get more griffins than magi on some, if not all levels. | | Sorry for double post, but just to clarify, I don't believe knight is overpowered or underpowered, I was just trying to show why the creatures could be bad but people still think that the faction is overpowered. | Some one here says, kights are weak, and you guys are comparing units for each faction and vote the most powerfull, and the weakness unit...
If you ask me that, i will tell the best unit of each faction is like it is, ever unit have one fuction to the army...
faries/spirt, ins't better than gobls/hobs, each one have one finnaly...
i prefer vote the unit we like more, and i will vote black wolfs... | About Guards, cerbs and app..
App, can absorb mana, have a moderate hp, and can avoid 2 attacks at max, and next attck have 100% chance to hit, and the next one 75% chance to hit...
After that will miss, and next one 25% chance to hit... And keep going...
Cerberus, good dmg, poor hp, good walker and initiative, attack aeo and without retalation
Guards, can do stun, have a good hp, moderate dmg, good defense, and have a aura decrevesing 50% range attacks...
So how can you guys compare, witch unit is better? All is very very nice, and have one fuction to the army...
Guards can be slow, but two thigs, first, he is a tanker and support unit.
And second, the good defense and hp, balance the low initiative + bad walk speed, and he also got a moderate dmg + stun, thats amazing
And that aura is the best skill of one unit low tier, at my optinion...
You guys can't compare witch unit is better of all armys, all armys are needs every units to be complety. | i agree with what shaocan say.
guard are slow but it is merely a defensive unit. cerb are low in hp, but dont forget they can gate. apps can act as the best wall except vs wizard.
they have their own stregth and weakness and need the other unit to support them. | | tier 1 is poisener | tire 1 hob r best
pois good only if too high in number | # 37-
Lol I didn't see it.
1.And I'll take 70 Shrews over 100 Xbows anytime.
2.• Farmer/Recruit - It really doesn't matter how many a knight get for this unit, a knight will never max this unit to bring into battle. And even if we really wanna count quantity, it's much lesser than a the number of Skeleton Bowmen a necro can bring.
3. Not even a contest here. Almost all the other factions take more tier 4 units than knights can bring Griffins.
4.Knights get less monks/clerics than genies/senior genies, and not much more than the other tier 5s
5.Cavalry - Knights gets less/equal tier 6 than almost all other factions
O_o vishnus casts puppet master on Jedi Knight and make him cast mass dispersion on LWM community.
Lets begin with 1. Ofcourse 70 shrews way better than 100 xbows. But even in lvl 15, DE doesn't get 70 shrews while at lvl 15, knights have an awsome 165 xbows( I checked Surim's account) DE get less than half number of shrews even with rally. In my lvl knights can have almost 3x more crossbows than shrews both sides without rally.
2.Use of recruit is not in battle, but it increases troop count of other units.
3.Well this statement is somewhat true . knights have more/ same amt of griffins than lizz cav. Necro has more vamps bcause they are one of the main offense units. Griffins have very good ini, speed and damage with bless + dive bombing.
4. In my lvl, I can recruit 7 hydra while knights can have 11. And monks are better than genies, .They have largest number after genies and are one of the best tier 5 units.
5.Knights have same mo. of cavalry and angels as other factions.And cavalry is the strongest tier 6 unit.
What you said is true only when knight FSP lvl is less than the standard Fsp lvl of the combact lvl. Balancing is done taking standard FSP lvls . Otherwise high FSP knights would be over powered.
Example: At my level, would you prefer 23 Grifs or 27 Vamp Counts? Or equal number of Liz Assailants? No contest.
Liz Assail are strong bcause DE depend lot on it .Even thought knight have only as muuch as griffins as liz in my lvl, DE still can't beat a knight of same skill. And as I said earlierStand alone, knight's troops are worse . But combined together they are very powerful just like carbon fibre . | since there's a debate about how strong/weak knights are, I think this link is somewhat meaningful:
http://daily.heroeswm.ru/n/mt11_stat
it looks to me that knight is pretty strong in pvp, and the stat number says the same thing---at least it's definitely not weak (except when against wizard) | since there's a debate about how strong/weak knights are, I think this link is somewhat meaningful:
http://daily.heroeswm.ru/n/mt11_stat
Wow.. that has to be one of the most useful links to the debate about factions' strengths and weaknesses.... if one can read Russian. :p | if one can read Russian. :p
not so hard to understand, if you use google translate or google chrome =D | | We don't know how many magic/might wizzard/DE there are. And I didn't understand much with google translator. What is *umelki* , *HT* , *Berger*...? | We don't know how many magic/might wizzard/DE there are.
there is a stat about the winning rate with different build, I believe it's the last table in each level
And I didn't understand much with google translator. What is *umelki* , *HT* , *Berger*...?
I dont understand it either... but the knowing the winning rate is good enough | #19
They are both equally... bad. haha..
Anyway, thinking of doing a poll for the best and funniest April Fool creatures. What you people think? :) | | Do you put dwarf creature in choise ? |
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