| Author | No CG!!! |
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| I'm waiting a long time in Commanders guild, but I cannot find my challenger. Does everyone just save his money? Enroll in the most boring thing. Please join and create 2v2 and 3v3 battles! Come on lvl10! |
| 39: Well I guess I can see that. I wouldn't play CG while im DE. And at level 15 Boji basically is destroying everyone. I think he lost twice a while ago, hasn't lost since. He's almost got to level 1 now. |
My question is: why were wages cut? Things were working fine before. Now the wages are so low that it's impossible for most players to participate in Hunts & Mercenary Quests and still have enough artifacts to meet Ammunition Points requirements for Tournaments & Events … not to mention the tiresome Commander's Guild.
I worked hard enrolling regularly every day to build up my Laborer's Guild level, only to find that my wages were cut way back. What a lame decision! Even at Level 9, players can't earn enough by enrolling regularly to keep themselves in decent artifacts to participate in the unpleasant Commander's Guild battles.
I can't tell you how many times I've waited & waited & waited & waited & waited & … for an opponent or a team to join. I stopped playing the Commander's Guild battles altogether. So boring!
I was lucky enough to have earned & sold my 2nd Thief Invitation before they changed the Thief Guild rules last year. Another really stupid decision driven by greed. Doesn't look like too many players are spending $80 to buy a Thief Invitation. The only result both of these decisions have achieved is to make the game less fun and less appealing. |
| im not high enough, but gold ins't a problem... or it is? i can make more than 20k per day with level 7, at level 10 it should be 40 - 50k per day... |
deadlyking and me looking for partners, only CG battles, 2vs2 or 3vs3 etc...
lvl11 players, and check Respect of freedom clan |
Conclusion:
I see that the main problem with CG is that people do not want to play in this guild either because of lack of money, lack of opponents to fight with, fear of PvP battles, much time for group battles and with duels some factions are obsolete. So, I think that to promote CG admins should:
1. make some notification as in hunt assistance
2. increase bonuses for fighting in this guild (maybe better skills ratio compared to experience) I mean bonus in every battle.
3. attempts to create special clans have had little effect so far, so maybe it should be created more efficient clan
Please, your ideas. |
| 46:good ideas |
46: good ideas, not sure what you mean but #3 tho
43:
earned 2nd thief invite yea ... sold, i don't know that that's lucky, didn't the price inflate like 700k after the update? |
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=495069280
pretty good exp/fsp ratio, at least for us losers xD |
for Xerfer:
43: earned 2nd thief invite yea ... sold, i don't know that that's lucky, didn't the price inflate like 700k after the update?
Yes, the price of TGI's increased after the rules changed. I had to really push to get to TG Level 4 before the rules changed on December 1st, 2009 so I could get my 2nd Thief Invitation. Then I waited for a few months after the update to sell and got 725,000 gold for it. :-)
Before the 'TG rule change' a player would be awarded the 1st TGI at Level 2, but usually had to give it whoever had rented or lent them their TGI. Then at TG Level 4, you would be awarded your 2nd TGI which you could sell or rent yourself. After the 'update' renting TGI's was made illegal.
I was about 70-80 successful Ambushes away from Level 4 by early November so I was doing ambushes all day, every day and finally achieved TG Level 4 the day before Thanksgiving, 2009. Got my 2nd TGI but held on to it for awhile. Well worth the effort. |
50: Yeah, I understand what happened, and you're not the only one who got in just in time. I think either Pang or Pantheon (started with a P I think) got it just in time too. Now to keep this on topic...
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=27112397
See how close this is? Nothing is more entertaining than such fights. You would think all the PvPers and even PvEers would be jumping on this guild for the thrill of PvP combined with the character progression of a guild, but this is not the case it seems :( |
| At last I've seen progress with CG. Several battles and even group battles. It's a real fun, no comparison with battles where everyone wants to economize in minimum arts. Do not be afraid of battling in CG - they are the funniest events in this game!!! |
| They also give good FSP... 2v2 winners is like 4100 exp per FSP (i got 4) and loser is like 2600 per FSP, though they only got 1.37 |
no matter how "good" the rsp or exp are the cost is still too high for over 50% of the players in this game. the majority of players in this game are not hardcore 12 hour aday players... they dont log on form a cell phone to enroll every hour they dont set alarms to remind them to hunt every hour.... the bottom line is most players only have time to enroll or play or hunt 3 to 4 hours aday thus it will take over a week or two in order to save up for good arts much less be able to keep them in repair. the bottom line is that at higher levels in order for the "casual" player to keep doing lots of PVP they will at some point either have to wait weeks at a time saving every peice of gold they can to buy good arts/repair them or buy diamonds and that is the bottom line and is why the majority of players do not play much past level 6 or 8 majority of players will sit back and enroll/hunt till big events or holiday specials then they might get a little more active so they can try and capitalize and make some extra gold.
Why is there less and less pvp at higher levels well for one fewer players acually get to higher levels cause they lose interest after they see how hard it is for them to afford the good arts for their level. for two players that do push on to higher levels have to enroll/hunt for weeks on end in order to keep their arts going.
Alot of players who have been around here for 2+ years like to say... "enroll" more... but that does not fix the problem it just pisses people off and they leave the game..
Find a means for casual players to be able to earn gold faster so they can afford the arts and you will get more PVP at higher levels... its pretty simple... you can not change the players.. you have to change the aspect of the game that causes players to not want to pvp |
| I'm not 12 hour a day player either.. I enroll maybe 5 times a day, and play 3 hours. Regardless, there were PLENTY of players in the demon event, I don't see why players had gold for that but not for CG. |
| easy... CG is a constant day to day thing...... were as the demon event was rare thig on this server. and everyone who played alot and won alot in it got a really good weapon they could either use or sell to make up the cost of the arts they uesed during the battle. |
| CG also gives really good arts when you reach level 1. And it doesn't have to be a day to day thing. You could play only it all day for a few weeks like demon event, or play once a day for months. |
you have to win 150 CG battles to get rank 1.... were as you only have to do 40 or so demon battles to get a really good weapon... and tons of FSP and tons of exp your argument is obiously one sided... your side..
you dont seem to understand the other side or the reality of this issue.... time should show you why there is very little PVP or CG ..... gold has always been the issue and will always be the issue because majority of online gamers do not enjoy nor do they care to play a game where they have to log on enroll hunt then wait an hour and repeat to try and save up gold for a week or so to buy really cool arts they then have a limited use on till they have to once again save up gold till they can pvp again... most gamers who enjoy pvp dont care to wait days or weeks till they can afford to do another pvp battle... they want to be able to just jump into it.... thus if the admins would make a area for unarmed pvp you would see tons of new higher level players doing pvp... |
#3: very bad / unenjoyable way to spend your time
This is the problem with CG I think. You voiced it very well, even unintentionally.
It is not about getting low rewards if you win in CG, not about character build, or gold for full arts. Its about the feeling you get when you LOSE to a player and he goes "HA HA".
It is much easier to win/lose to some CPU thingy.. no one is better than you, it was just a too strong caravan/hunt, etc.
Some things are better in pairs/groups than alone. Gaming might be one of them. :-) Even though they can be quite a challenge. Maybe all this fear of pvp comes just from the basic nature of a "dedicated player". Ideal dedicated player doesnt like people, why should he enjoy pvp then? :-D |
as for those who would argue thre is a place for low art pvp.... the reason the Groups battles dwindle off after level 6 or so is again gold... and abuse. players get really irrated and stop playing when they create a pvp battle and say min arts only and some power/pwner jumps in with super arts and slaughters them...
Do you really think folks are going to keep playing if they keep getting taken advantage of??? no they wont... and eventually you have no one else to pick on or to fight cause players do not wish to waste days upon days of their life just so they can get ravaged by other players who are alot more active and able to get more gold to overpower them. |
