| Author | Mods are anti-social?? |
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No PvP playstyle = no frustration = no understanding of why people create legions of 'where-is-my-update' threads = ban for u for creating ANOTHER 'useless' thread
That is the most insightful statement anyone has said in this thread. |
for limustudotcom:
well i dont think they are anti-social because they dont do pvp. i havent done 'em my self for long.i think they are waste of time and money(i need money for 5 ap rule) and do only hunts . hunts are selective as well for me as i dont do high danger ones(red circle) with less than 100 gold. |
I know most of the mods from Chatroom and I can tell you, they are all social, discuss of everything and when asked do battles.
Its just your point of view that differ from others and you use a really bad way to get your point of view seen.
Just stop the hate Limus. |
To 41:
Insightful?
The true meaning of what i wanted to say was not what i wrote but what can be deduced from it.
Let me give you another example:
Would you feel comfortable in a multicultural country where the head of state is partial to his ethnic group?
Now,
Would you feel comfortable in a pvp-oriented (IMO lords IS pvp) game where the moderators do not pvp? |
well, I must totally agree with limustudotcom. I consider moderators anti-social as well for two reasons:
1, Not only the do not participate in GB, some of them dare even not to be in both guilds - smiths' and enchanters' (except Takesister). I consider Skunder be extremelly anti-social - he isn't in thievess' guild at all! I think he should resign his post because of that.
2, I also believe (considering moderators represents the server as limustudotcom mentioned) that they should be in TOP 10 in every aspect of the game - starting with combat level and ending with enchanters' guild. But this is just my opinion and I can understand why they fail to be in TOP 10. Considering they play 24 hours per day (Mods are not allowed "real-life" - if they want to solve real life problems, they should resign their posts) there is only one explanation. They are ... (since the four-letter-word I was using to say is reason for ban, I would not use it :P) not-so-skilled-players :P This would also explain, why they don't attend GB.
In the end I would like to thank limustudotcom to bring the most urgent matter of LoWM to public attention. I share his opinion that forums do not need such a treatment and that mods should better join GB than keep an eye on forums - let the undisciplined players wreak havoc on the forum ;) |
overclocker, i don't mean to be offencive or anything, but i don't agree with anything you said just then.
Mods don't have to be in any guild or even be good at this game to be a mod. they just need to know what the rules are. if they know that, why would they need to be good at the game? |
here :
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_warlog.php?id=4360371
proof that mods do participate in full arts PvP |
^^ I dont think active mods can be considered as anti social only by looking at their playing style. Like forum only mods that cant be considered as inactive or silent mods because dont chatting, there's always another way to do something.
Is it GB lover mods or just active ones that a community really need? |
if you haven't the knowledge of what anti social is please don't make yourself look stupid
Just try to stop whining about the topic name like everyone else and continue discussion.
From now on, lets call this thread: "Group battles are important? Why mods dont do them?" |
IMHO There is no connection between "participating in group battles" and "being social".
My 2 cents worth on this rather lame topic. No offense to the poster, ;)
However one point did come to my attention. Perhaps mods should not be members of clans due to "conflict of interest"?
No real strong view there. Just an observation.
Cheers
WtW |
"conflict of interest"
There is no conflict of interest between clans as far as I know. Clans now are just a matter of respect and socialisation. No reason why it should affect mods/ keepers abilities. |
What I find truely mind boggling is how the isolationist folks (ie people that choose to only play with themselves and not others) rise up and call me names because I ENCOURAGED the Mods to put in more EFFORT at playing Group Battles because the PvP is grossly neglected by that particular group.
I identified it as a problem that is hurting the server. When you do not play with others, what are you? Social? It would be like someone considering themselves social because they sit at home all day, chatting on their pcs, and frequenting chat rooms.
Sorry, folks, that is not social to me. Being social is about a little more interaction...and within the confines of this game, the 'most' you can do with someone here, IS in fact, PLAY with them.
Call me whatever names you want, but my opinion is unchanged on this. It isn't like I woke up one day and said "Hey, the Mods don't PvP, I'll make their life harder by pointing this out today." I thought about this matter for many, many months. Then I noticed that the pvp scene was dying down among the lower levels, the levels that Mods are closer to than I am, and figured since I cannot stimulate lower level GBs--maybe they should try.
In every society/community there are things people don't like to do, but they still have to be done. If PLAYING with more players is a burden to most of the mods now--then that sucks. But learning to play with others is a rewarding experience...don't give up on the community just because you were burned by poor experiences in the past. I am sick and tired of hearing "The PvP scene sucks, too many afkers, too many dumb players" etc.
Cheers,
LS |
i think that mods are players LIKE ANY OTHER. they should play the way they want, and it's not worth the discussion. i would like to see everybody play PvP more, but they don't. maybe "Most players are anti-social" would be a thread worth discussing (for me), but i can't see why moderator has to play PvP (or more PvP), while great majority of players never do it.
as for "Many, many, look at the mods as the 'model' player" theory.. luckily for all of us, that's not the case :P
can't really understand this subject, so i won't post here anymore. i just stated my opinion
bye bye |
for limustudotcom:
Maybe you should stop your crusade, get your head out of the sand and follow Modi's idea, for once, Im agree with his idea. It is a better solution then just putting all the blame on mods. Thanks to you for the information that mods dont do much PvP but they have Other Duties to take care about.
Im tired of your crusade against mods. |
Well, this will be my last post on this topic, it truly is a waste of my time to continue discussing it more.
Furthermore, limus, you have dodged any of the real questions I posed to you and continue to just dig at singular words taken out of context. A simple answer to my earlier question, "how does GB show more social behavior than chatting/forum posting/ etc" would have been nice.
But, the trend of this thread seems to be against your view. Yes, mods decline from doing many GB. No it is not our resonsiblity to do them. Yes, it MAY (and MAY does not mean that it DOES) help to bolster morale, but not in the "mods lead the revolution" kind of way that you THINK (I say 'think' as in, it is your opinion again).
But besides all the banter and your purposeful attack on mods (I will not be disillusioned to think otherwise simply by you saying it is not), I believe the majority of non-Mod players who have posted here seems to disagree with you. So I tend to think that THEY think your point is mute. I myself think this has just been one more way for a malcontent player to vent his frustration on anyone than himself and to take shots on the mods/admin/LWM in general, and thus you have your reason why I was so "fiesty". To tell you the truth I can deal with the thankless job of being a mod because I enjoy it (not the 'fame/infamy', the meager mod-wage, or the ability to silence such malcontent players), but simply by helping to better the gaming-community in any way that I am able.
In conclusion, as I suggested in my last post, I am not "above" doing GB. But I will not just sign on to have time/ARTS wasted by an AFKer. However, I am not above accepting a challenge from a reliable player who asks me to join a fight. |
#53
More people should PvP indeed. But the fact remains that the mods are active, and are relatively lower level (ie under lvl 12) so they do have the ABILITY to stimulate PvP battles if they recognize the need--which I was pointing out.
You said that a lot of people don't look at mods as models, and others say that they do. Who can really know for sure? I tend to agree with the latter--personally.
#54
Crusade against mods? I think you need to get your head out of whatever dark place it's in and realize there is no blame here. It isn't even an allegation. Fact: Mods don't play much with others. Fact: Nowhere in this topic do I call to question the clerical/etc duties of the mods--several are doing a great job.
I'm tired of your bias against me--grow up. If they rename the server to Lords of Alienation and Money, and remove the group battle feature, then I wouldn't be saying anything about this problem that the mods can help with--if they choose to. |
#55
I suggest you recount the "majority" aspect of your assumption. The majority sympathize with the mods choosing to NOT participate in play-time with others. But MOST recognize that this is a server-wide problem that perhaps mods should consider helping with.
I did explain how playing with others is more social on this server. See post #52 in case you missed it.
Thankless job? You aren't a saint, Skunder. Empire pays you gold for your efforts. I am not saying this is your 'reason' for being a mod, but don't pretend like you do everything pro-bono. Unlike you, I help out the server for free because I care. We pursue our own visions of what makes the community better, granted, but you are not ashamed at your lack of willingness to help bring back the PvP aspect of this dying game.
It isn't a date, Skunder, people shouldn't have to ask you to play haha! This is a game. You put yourself out there, and take a chance with strangers--this builds communties. What you are reinforcing is that image of isolation that Mods have that I simply am trying to change as a "normal player." |
for Skunder:
So I tend to think that THEY think your point is mute
That's "moot", not mute. Don't thank me, just send gold =)
Seriously, for those who are accusing Limu of trying to attack mods;
Limu has been bugging me for months about doing PvPs in fact so much that if I didn't like him I would have told him to shut it. I have the PMs to prove it too. I give him the same answers as many here have done, AFKers, bad players, too much time....
He really is attempting to inject more PvP participation and I suppose he thought playing with mods would be a help. Right or wrong is one's opinion but those who are accusing him of being a malcontent are in fact wrong as can be but I don't expect anyone to drop their bias for a second and take him at his word. Man I hope there will be clan wars in the future because we are going to roll a bunch of players :P |
Words of encouragement to litmus:
Please do not feel discourage by lack of PvP... and leave the game.
When clan war arrives (hopefully within this decade) elite warriors will rip everyone with our EXPERIENCED and superior tatics... THEN we can truely UNLEASH the fury of pvpers... CRUSH those PVErs as they deserve...
Then there is a reason to pvp: lords of WAR and money..
Until then im doing all those pve-activities to improve my pvp ability... |
I don't think the mods are anti-social, even if they were it would not be a problem.
I would rather have them focus more energy into punishing the cheaters in the many, many threads in the reporting forums.
Without the possibility of cheaters joining and ruining your pvp group battles, they would also make a lot more sense.
Also there needs to be some other AFK solution (either AI takeover or player takeover) before the group battles make sense as far too many are decided by AFK and it just gets frustrating. |
