Author | Economy isn't balanced for all factions |
for hiddenshadow:FYI Wiz are good at Merc and hunts so
merc=meteor shards=2300+gp |
Well, if you, hiddenshadow don't complain about weakness of wizard but want to balance building cost then my suggestion is to make wizard more weaker than present day after reduce its cost.
Believe me, this game is well balance but not in every level or every aspect. The point is if you choose any faction you must find and use that strong point.
Imagine if all faction are the same in everything then the game will very boring.
Why would the cost be so much a different if all faction strengths are balanced? Lets all go play the cheapest faction w00t! Let's all be enchanters w00t! Lets all have same strenghts w00t!
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rofl, magic DE with magic pierce is the only work could kill those with resist or immune spell. i bet it is the only faction could use spell kick your butt hard
ofc, as magic DE, you should know elemental call, sorcery talent are always important. so, you can end up with non-bad troops + awesome spell dmg = combination of might and magic.
unlike DE, wiz spell will be able to resist by any existed talent, abilities or enhanced armor. their spell wont kick you as hard as DE; but with the holy magic guild + mini art, they can be good fighter too.
Where goes the might if I have to spend points in both knowledge and talents? DE troops won't stand a chance if they don't have some proper might. For DEs, might will deal muuuuuch more damage than choosing to go magic. Shrews need these attack points, hydras need these attack points, if you dont give them attack points, they can get beaten by some gargs easily... |
for hiddenshadow:FYI Wiz are good at Merc and hunts so
merc=meteor shards=2300+gp
and how many hunts/merc are needed to cover the costs?
If special persons can be specialy strong, it just dont make sense of "all factions are equal". So both strength and cost should be nerfed. |
And the wizard in full arts with best mini-arts is unbeatable. +Wizards are the only faction with magic bonus at hunts and merc quests.
Are mini-arts expensive? Lets lower the price and strenght of mini-arts to 50% then. Shall it please you? Probably not, because wizards ARE the strongest and most expensive faction. |
If special persons can be specialy strong, it just dont make sense of "all factions are equal". So both strength and cost of miniarts should be nerfed. |
Supposedly you are not complaining about the costs of mini arts, but about the costs of catsle upgrades.
and for constructions, if u read carefully i mentioned wizards have the most expensive castle, 927k for full upgrade for level 14. Second place only need about 880k. 40k makes difference.
47k gold / 927k gold = 5%
So all this talk for 5% diffrence. 47k gold isn't worth mentioning once you have reached lvl 14. |
Everything adds up. arts+minis+castle+etc. 47k maybe not much but still something. |
hiddenshadow, you complain about unbalanced economy for the wizards. it might be as you say. let's see... you said the barbarian faction is much cheaper, but look in top hunters and check the barbarian records comparing with the wizard faction. you will see that the wizard faction is more successful, so, less losses from the hunt. you compared with the elves. as far as i saw in top hunters (over all factions and levels), elves are second best hunters after wizards.
now, let's have a look in pvp. magic ignores defence, so, any faction can wear whatever arts, the wizard has full damage.
what is your point? we should have a cheap master race? no faction is simple. for wizard, it may be gold the hardest part. |
Yes, make wizards cheaper and tomorrow 75% of all the players is a wizard |
Yes, make wizards cheaper and tomorrow 75% of all the players is a wizard
w00t, make it one faction instead, then we see whos better whos not.... |
Its been said tons of times before;
Strenght comes at a price, mini artifacts might be expensive but they provide one of the biggest boosts a player can get due to racial skill in PVP when you can finally afford them and wait, that's not all, a wizard also gets a great PvM bonus in the form of extra spell damage. Heck, I'd love to trade in my piercing magic ability only to get the spell damage bonus wizards get in hunts/merc quests. |
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you said barbarian is cheaper, why don't we see only barbarians? because the faction is not so strong in hunting. and, perhaps, many people play this game for hunting and mercenary and thieving. it's not only about gold, it's about overal capabilities of a faction.
personally, i consider the barbarian faction pretty expensive because it is one of the best in pvp, but pretty weak in rest. and if something is gold consuming, pvp is on the top of consumption. |
and that is _ % of just ur combats for ex.??? |
Now let's supposed wizards are the strongest and most expesive, it still doesn't give people rights to spend a "lil patience", enroll a lil more, save a lil more art to be able to play the best faction, this conflicts with "all factions are equal" and it is unfair to other factions.... Let's all enroll one more time per day, waste 1AP less per battle, have a little more patience, lets all get triple arts and be unbeatable. |
Games that all factions are equal in everything are usually boring and dull...
Factions in this game are all interesting and powerful in their own ways. There is not a faction that would be best for everyone. It all depends on play style.
And well no one said that factions are equal really... what people say is that factions are "balanced". If someone cannot find his way in this balance then he simply fails in this game ( maybe his fault maybe the game's fault that is something none of us can say ). |
Heck, I'd love to trade in my piercing magic ability only to get the spell damage bonus wizards get in hunts/merc quests.
Simple. Be a wizard.......
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Telling me to enroll more or have more patience to me, it is the same as
Telling you mom:"mom, scorrpianssss...*shakes* Can you kill it for me plz??"
-"No Bart, I'm to weak.... When you grow up and start to earn money, buy yourself a gun, then you wouldn't need to be afraid of scorpians no more."
-"But mom, these are too expensive.. and it will cost a hell amount of money for bullets too... Its not the gun that kills, its the bullets.."
-"Be patient. If you find another partly time work and work an extra hour a day, spend less on junk food and games, you will get there eventually."
-"But mom, how long will it take?
-"Took your dad 10 years. But we earn more nowdays than before, so I think you can achieve it in 9 years."
-"But mom.."
-"No but, I believe you can earn more than anyone if you have patience. From a lowly worker to an engineer and then to a CEO, it just takes time." |
hidden, i guess that's only u who think like that
nobody support u here - maybe few
maybe u should look around
all the best player never complaints about the miniarts
about their disadvantages or smthg like that |
You really fail (or refuse) too see the fact that the wizard faction is a great faction even without mini arts. Different factions have different strengths and weaknesses; the main strength of the wizard are his PvM skills, his weaker points are PVP which can be compensated by buying (expensive) mini arts. |
I dont know how I buy 3-d mini arts,because I very many time doing 2-miniarts and buy fool( |
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