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Ector labor is the best way to get money. With the new rules there is no good way to get faction points vs. xp they all suck. Hunting is not worth it for the money only the hunt and faction points repair for arts or new arts cost more then you get. Merch quest if you have a high lv one of kill all the monsters if you can do it in 2 to 3 tries otherwise see previous coment.
I could have done theif at 7 but 8 is probly better I am waiting.
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About thieves guild, i would say that wizard is probably the worst faction to go thieving with, ambush action starts from 1st round and enemy hits you right away with all melee units almost, so it barely fits with wizard slow play. Also consider you kinda need full artifacts to succeed in ambushes and magic full art set kinda costs x2 compared to the melee one.
I personally did TG up to level 2 and a bit after as a wizard before the change in TG in october and it wasnt very bad. But afterwards it seems wizards need to lose a lot of battles to make caravans easy enough to switch to other factions. Considering all these and the amount of gold a TG invite will bring, i switched to DE and started ambushing with that. My plan was to get triple mini art for gargoyle via TG invitation ( already done ) and now next plan is to get TG 4 for next invitation ( ambushing as DE ) to make enough gold for golem mini artifact ( will probably delay that till i am faction level 8 to make the 3 luck ones directly ).
The above thing is especially effective if you can afford to buy TG with diamonds. You will lose around 150k gold to switch castle in game and get back around 1 million ( with current prices ) with 2 thieves invites ( i don't mention thieves arts here since you sell them to get partial refund for art usage in ambushes )
The thing is we need exactly 2 big stacks of triple mini arts ( gargoyle, golem )

Of course laborers guild = top income source still :P
I totally agree that wizard is the worst to do thief. Because wizard got no real melee unit, fast or slow.
I did thief last November, after the change of how ambushing works. It was not fun, but it was not that terrible, either. At the time I was lvl 8. To save money, I started with partial arts and added more after every 30 wins or so. My goal was to reach TG2 only. So it did not feel so bad. But it cost dearly for sure. I can't afford to go further with almost full art after TG2. So the solution I can see is change faction....
The only person I heard of reaching TG 2 in less than 2 days is a wizard...
its always the faction that you are playing, thats the most difficult faction, and all other factions are "overwowered" ............
hi all i wanted to ask in what racial lv i can create a 2 states mini artifact
for ELMANTO:
You need factin level 4 for double miniarts, 7 for triple.
The only person I heard of reaching TG 2 in less than 2 days is a wizard...

wait a minute! that means 2.5 succesful ambushes in 1 hour! thats just impossible! 1st of all because u need some rest, 2nd - mana regen. ok maybe he always used manatubes, who knows.
wait a minute! that means 2.5 succesful ambushes in 1 hour! thats just impossible! 1st of all because u need some rest, 2nd - mana regen. ok maybe he always used manatubes, who knows.

Well, he definetly was rich enough to afford mana tubes. Also, some map sectors on .ru give faster mana regen.
Lvl 8, triple minifull. Probably a full-art. I was curious enough to check his combat log, and he had about one TG loss for each 2 pages of combat (he's done TG battles only)
Holidays/vacation/weekend give you the time required (asuming you're willing to devote 2 days to LWM only :) So while I didn't check the exact time/date of TGI rented/returned I rather believe his claim.

Just don't ask me about his nickname - I tried finding that guy again, but I can't :( he probably gained a level or 2 since I've seen him, too..

So it's my word only.
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Yeah, I know labor's guild is the way to go for money, I just was hoping that it would be easier to save up money than signing up for labor twice for each one combat I do.

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Yeah, I've done a few thief ambushes and I know it doesn't play to our strengths. I think I'll just stick it out with wizard faction to get to thief lvl 2 and perhaps switch to dark elf when I want to go past that. It seems like a lot of wizards are doing that.

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I did not complain and say that every other faction was overpowered but wizards. I simply stated that its hard to save up money to play wizards right now. I know the strength and the weaknesses of my faction.

Our strengths: hunting (especially the top tier monsters, most of the records are by wizards), pvp (I still think that a wizard with full mini arts can beat almost any faction if they play right).

Our weaknesses: thief ambushes (like everyone says, it does not play to our strengths), and its a slow faction to lvl up (in order to be a good wizard you need mini arts and in order to get the money to buy them you need to save up. If you lvl up too quickly you won't be as strong because of lack of money for mini arts)
wizard faction has two main weaknesses:

1) ambush style combat where enemies hit melee from 1st turn.
2) barbarians.

Regarding every other aspect of the game it definitely feels very powerful and fun to roll if you like patient style of play.
any advice for a lvl 4 wizard who's finding it a little tough?
1. Save money while you can because at lvl 5 it would be harder to save money.

2. Wait til faction lvl 4 to make double mini arts and forget about single ones.

3. Hunt, hunt, hunt!
i just battled a drk elf.he had 13 minos and i had 16 golems with 3+ attack.golems attacked first and i still lost.my point...wizard units suck.or atleast golems do.
hi, i need some advice.

1. is it possible to "upgrade" single arts or i need to dismantle them to get money for the better ones?

2. i'm now at level 4, should i choose more gargoyles and golems and forgo the gremlins?
1. is it possible to "upgrade" single arts or i need to dismantle them to get money for the better ones?
You have to dismantle them.

2. i'm now at level 4, should i choose more gargoyles and golems and forgo the gremlins?
Yes
i have a question that if i forge +1 morale for gargyoles then will my enchanted gargs also get +1 morale in future ?
for wizardhero:
they cant be affected by morale
i am talking about forge,not about normal arts.forge is mini arts.
i forge +1 morale for gargyoles then will my enchanted gargs also get +1 morale in future

No. Arts or miniarts, gargoyles (and golems) have 0 morale always.
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