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AuthorWhich race is the strongest in level 8?
dark elf at the bottom?

they have a better level 8 creature than elf/barb and demon maybe more
orc chiefs are not funny to met an the rocs can also transport ogres and so
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Don't listen him. He was play for dark elfs, but play bad and think that they weak)
darkelf with meleespec are the no. 1 - you will see it @nxt tournament
for dynastyera:
ofcourse De 8 lvl creature beter then elf becouse all 8lvl creatures beter then unicorn, but about barbs and demons u are wrong, demons have one of the best lvl 8 creature, they have high ini+fear attack and this is strong thing and barbs 8lvl creatures can reach enemy from first move and can drop ogres close to your ranks, they are better then DE 8lvl creature
My opinion:
1. Wizards
2. Necromancers
3. Knights
4. Demons
5. Barbarians
6. Elves
7. Dark Elves


how about elf? this is really elf is so weak (rank 6 of 7)
that meaning elf only easy for begining or hunt/merc but so worst in high lv in duel?
my opinion:
1 clever
2 silly
3 noooooob
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UNICORN NOT WORST UNIT!!!

Look at hell horse. Hell horse is way worse.

talents, just the way it works, knights are good at morale, elves, good at luck.

Now, demon can beat what level 3-4!?

What can a demon beat at level 3-4??? What can a demon beat level 5-7? MAYBE a knight, MAYBE an elf, demons very weak, stop whining about elf.
UNICORN NOT WORST UNIT!!!

No need caps plz..
just making a title/point, really not allowed to use caps at all!?
just making a title/point, really not allowed to use caps at all!? Caps plus !!! not good, maybe you can ask to mod too.. :p
can we get back to topic? we're discussing LEVEL 8, not level 3, 4, or 9 and above.
to xerfer

i(demon) can beat any elf at lv 3...
no arts battle

at lv 5 i pretty sure can defeat an elf too
look at tournaments replay, lv 5 demon win 19 from 20 tournaments game
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did u read post 45?
ALL are better then unicorn!
i dont know how hell horse looks from far, but thous hu used them belive that they are best from lvl8 creature, first of all they have fear attack, second they are very fast and faster then unicorns (16 ini Vs 12 ini), and this means they can attack creature and it will run loosing order and theyr turn, if demon lucky enought or oposing creature slow enought oposing creature will be not able to move or answer to enemy, only get damage - run actions
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It is very easy for an elf to win levels 3-4, battles please, hopefully where the elf wasn't stupid. level 5, elfs get druids, still very hard for a demon to win without arts....anyway, I don't believe you, battles please.

As for ironfist, unicorn has + 2 minimal damge plus 4 max. I'd say that counts for something. The higher initiative helps a lot, but i'd say more for gating then for anything else. Fear attack could be a factor, but if they don't do it it doesn't apply.
just look at my combat log at lv 3
not all of my battle vs elf ended with demon lose
almost of them i won
for Xerfer:
little bunus in damage means nothing in long run, first of all chanse of trigering fear is high, second if hellhorse attacks whit fear he will not get retaliation and fird, batteling such units like ogres, crossbowmen, swordsman and alike (whit low ini) hell horse after fear attack will be able move again before them and this means 2 and more strikes (rounds) not letting enemy unit to move or retaliate + hell horses are always a little more then unicorns.
i see your points, but also unicorn has 7 more hp...adding it all up, I'd say they are about equal, at least when there are the same number, and there all only more hell horse from gating...so, it smore that hell horses is from demons then you can recruit more.
i think crossbow and skeleton archer rullez all. no one can win if attaked be 96 crossbow or 200 skeleton. so...

1)human
2)necr
3)wizard
96 crossbows, or 200 skel archers will inflict 200 ranged damage on long range (approximated), but this becomes less as defense and attack values are skewed in favour of the defending creature (such as a hell horse). I'm not saying they're no good, quite the contrary, just that in general, lower tier creatures with high amounts do approximately the same damage as less higher tier creatures.

(with an exception of shrews, who in my views are still silly. They should really put a different balance on dark elves, more reliant on all units.. .Shrews are just too darn important compared to other units in dark elves...but that's not here to discuss...)

In general, the higher tier creatures have high defense, and receive very little damage from 200 archers, something like 80 or so at long range, which might kill 1, but then they get to strike.
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