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Delusional would be that you would believe you could see the new players by the number in the right corner and assume with only those numbers no new players have started ^^. Short sighted.

Anyways, enjoy the topic further. You will not have anymore replies from me. There is no point.

Lets hope admin have more of these updates in store for us! Would love to see the frequency of TG shortened! And maybe some other extras!

And that new players are joining is a real faulty one. We can all see on top right how many people are online. During the day (European time) it's always around 4500+ and towards the night around 3000 that keeps going down the later it gets. This has been the case for months now. Had there indeed been 'new' players and not newly opened multis by current players then we should have seen a rise in the online people, sadly this has not been the case. Anyone saying otherwise clearly need to pay attention to the top right numbers. Otherwise it would be delusional.

for Lawton:
very good point. I remmeber months ago 5000+ people being online, this has lowered to around 4000. lots of people are leaving the game and even if some new players join, that would be like 5 new players max I bet. the fact is that this game is slowly losing its players time by time.


for Jassi: I never look at things if it benefits me or not. I always look at things from a neutral point of view to see what's healthy for a game. This update is as you noticed clearly advantageous for me, but it is heavily unfair to those that have poured in years and practically their life into this game. And how many of them are there anyway? 1% of the playerbase or even up to 5%? You mean to tell me we needed this update for the 95-99% to be able to compete with that 1-5%? That is ludicrous.
yeah jassi is really looking at it from his pov, not from a neutral one. he immediately attacks people and says they are whining because they are pointing out the mistakes. its the same in our country. if others get punished hard for no reason, but you aren't getting involved, you root for it, but if it hits you, you will scream for change. of course there have been good improvements too like eofo commander guild, faster playing, more gold reward from watchers guild, so there aren't only bad updates. but alas, people like to live in their own world nowadays without thinking critically and about others. hope the admins make more potions like I said for commander guild that do be good
yeah jassi is really looking at it from his pov, not from a neutral one. he immediately attacks people and says they are whining because they are pointing out the mistakes. its the same in our country. if others get punished hard for no reason, but you aren't getting involved, you root for it, but if it hits you, you will scream for change. of course there have been good improvements too like eofo commander guild, faster playing, more gold reward from watchers guild, so there aren't only bad updates. but alas, people like to live in their own world nowadays without thinking critically and about others. hope the admins make more potions like I said for commander guild that do be good.

this wasnt a quote it was my text
level.for Jassi: I never look at things if it benefits me or not. I always look at things from a neutral point of view to see what's healthy for a game. This update is as you noticed clearly advantageous for me, but it is heavily unfair to those that have poured in years and practically their life into this game. And how many of them are there anyway? 1% of the playerbase or even up to 5%? You mean to tell me we needed this update for the 95-99% to
Dude, I stated your number because one thing I saw that lot of players mentioned you like to complain at every update.

So, just wanted to check that you were not affected at all by this. So, you do not involve in any sort of pvp competition whether it involves cg or event.

So, checking if it is really true that you like to complain at every single update or not.
Would you have complained if the update was opposite. Instead promoting pumping to next level?
Issy404: go look at my recent cg records.

With over 100 fights in group and duel cg, I had 80% win ratio.

I'll pumped in my combat level in few months when I get 3-4 stats from guilds I'm very close to. I'll pumped too. So, not really saying from pov.

Yet, I'm still supporting because participation in cg was very low. New players or players with low stats were avoiding cg because of this. So, stronger players were getting stronger and stronger. Even in high cg levels, points you need to level up cg are not high. Like 1500 or so.

So, this update was a necessity and very good one. Maybe you will realize too in few months or so.
Dude, I stated your number because one thing I saw that lot of players mentioned you like to complain at every update.

So, just wanted to check that you were not affected at all by this. So, you do not involve in any sort of pvp competition whether it involves cg or event.

So, checking if it is really true that you like to complain at every single update or not.
Would you have complained if the update was opposite. Instead promoting pumping to next level?

for Jassi:
everyime someone has critique, you are calling him a whiner. how would you feel if you spent 1000+ euro's or dollars into this game plus thousands of hours and you get pushed under a train like that?? have you ever spent a penny on this game? all I see from you is silencing every ounce of critique when a few people state their different opinion. this forum is mainly becoming an echo chamber with people always having the same opinion when a new update comes. what does his stats have to do with this? all I see is a pavlov reaction: see lawton criticise some stuff that has good foundation, call him a whiner.


With over 100 fights in group and duel cg, I had 80% win ratio.

I'll pumped in my combat level in few months when I get 3-4 stats from guilds I'm very close to. I'll pumped too. So, not really saying from pov.

Yet, I'm still supporting because participation in cg was very low. New players or players with low stats were avoiding cg because of this. So, stronger players were getting stronger and stronger. Even in high cg levels, points you need to level up cg are not high. Like 1500 or so.

So, this update was a necessity and very good one. Maybe you will realize too in few months or so.


there are players with a lot better stats than you. you also face lots of people with a lot less points too. this isn't even about your win rate record, you are now getting an advantage because of this new update. you haven't even thought about the other side of the story with those players, you only care about the game being more 'fair'. commander guild participation is also very low still. this update wasn't an necessity, it was an option. I'm certain the admins wont get lots of miney anymore because of this and the bug inflation and if there is no income, a game cannot devellop and exist.
money*
Do you even look in previous messages. Looks like whatever we say you going to repeat again.

Like someone mention previously what diamonds can be used for. Is there a way of showing how much you spent real money other than uci in character?

You mention that I'm benefitting from this. Like how explain before throwing some silly comments here and there. I had 80% win ratio. Now, is it going to increase to 90% or 100%.

I think this same discussion has be going for so long. No point repeating same thing as it seems that it falling at deaf ears.
for Jassi:
only thinh you seem to do is call us whiners. if thats your only defence, dont be shocked if someone is saying something about it.
Alright I see your point. Fair enough that you have different point of view. I agree to disagree before this escalates further than what already is.
Ofic there are new faces in cg now. And it will improve with time, not in 1 or 2 days lol.
for ProZyk:
Check this
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=2890295&page=13#52755709
I saw that, but that doesn't answer much imo.
You have to choose between getting more resistance or stats on main function.
3% resistance for every faction is 9 * 0.25 = 2.25 extra points in the calculation, while an fsl12-->fsl13 is 2 extra stat points in the calculation.
What do you prefer?
You need to put the faction points somewhere.
If you never play your main faction, sure, do resistances. But if you do play your main faction, I'd rather take 2 stat points than 3% faction resistances.
Also for reference, if you find yourself with fsl12 on main and fsl9 on all other factions
fsl12 --> fsl13 = 17000 faction points
fsl9 --> fsl10 = 2400 faction points. Doing fsl 9->10 for 9 factions is 21600 faction points.

Former comes quickly and gives +1 Attack, +1 Def on main faction and faction bonus.
Latter takes slightly longer and gives 3% faction resistance against every faction.
I don't think it's an obvious choice if you play your main faction.

Alternatively you can keep dumping faction points into a second faction to get that to fsl12, which won't hurt your pumping much. That way, you're trying to get benefit from guilds and not the faction levels.
But I don't have much benefits to gain from guilds considering I don't play MG or TG (or even HG) anymore. So I'd rather take the faction benefits since that atleast improves my character somewhat.
fsl12-->fsl13 is 2 extra stat points

It's 2.25 here as well (2 from FSL and .25 from fsl 12>13).

For lvl 18 atleast there are more disadvantages then advantages and yes it depends on what faction we want to play with.

Remember, PoS now gives equal fsl not max minus one.
Hmm, if PoS now gives equal fsl, is there any point in having a main faction now?
You can have fsl13 while pos gives only fsl12 at cl17/18.
Any faction can be your main faction as long as you have active potion.
I don't see any point now to have fsp13 at level 17/18 since you get extra 2 points as main faction.

At cl 19, even if you don't have main faction at 13, you get fsp 14 main faction points anyway. That time it's best to level up your main faction to 13.
A question, if i play CG as dark elf or elf, my faction level consider as 13 right? (without PoS)
No, in a battle you will get fsp level of faction you playing with without potion. For example if you play level 10 elf then you will have level 10 elf. If potion is active for elf, then level 13.

In terms of calculator for experience, it will consider you as fsp 13 even though you don't have fsp 13 for combat level 20.
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