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for Lord MilesTeg:
Essentially yes, if you waited till you had 250k of leadership points in one stack, then what you upgraded would be close to 50k and able to itself be upgraded. Or ensuring that the bulk of your leadership is focused on a single stack. Therefore more efficiently getting a higher tier creature. However this is at the expense of variation
Sounds logic in theory. But we need to understand if the game will upgrade each 50k leadership and give you a random upgraded creature, or if it will upgrade all 250k at once... |
I have a question with regard to the resurrection of creatures and an ambiguity in what they have said, possibly relating purely to the phraseology of the translation.
In the leaders guild table there are different levels of rarity mentioned, common (implied), uncommon, rare and epic.
In the information given in the announcement point number 9 reads as follows
9. The units lost in battle disappear from your reserve. After the battle, there is an opportunity to pay gold to resurrect rare creatures. The amount of gold needed depends on the leadership index of the creature.
The implication of this is that only "rare" creatures can be resurrected. strictly speaking this would imply that you cannot resurrect common, uncommon or epic creatures. However, I would expect it to be that you can resurrect all that are not common. It is possible however that uncommon cannot be resurrected, only those of rare or higher.
Can anyone confirm which troop types can be resurrected from uncommon, rare and epic? Thanks |
I would expect it to be that you can resurrect all that are not common
I think that this is what they meant to say. A confirmation would be nice. |
Sounds logic in theory. But we need to understand if the game will upgrade each 50k leadership and give you a random upgraded creature, or if it will upgrade all 250k at once...
You can upgrade more than 50k in one go. You can not upgrade as much as 250k in one go. Or so I gathered from .ru. |
| I believed the cut off was 250k, hence why I said you would end up with just less than 50k of your upgraded |
for Lord MilesTeg:
It should be read as any non common creatures can be resurrected. Also as appointed by others, the cost is 10% of leadership scores for that creature. |
For Lord MilesTeg:
First, let me apologize for the inconsistency in the terminology. In the original (Russian) table, they use the terms that translate to "rare, very rare, and heroic". We took the liberty of remapping the categories to "uncommon, rare, and epic". What the announcement refers to as "rare" is actually "uncommon" in our table. We had translated the announcement before we translated the table, so we didn't have the opportunity to go back and fix the announcement.
I believe your assumption that you can resurrect any creature above the "common" level is the correct one. Beside the mix-up in terminology, the ambiguity is not due to the translation (the original announcement did not say "rare or rarer"). I noticed it, but didn't press for clarification because I assumed that currently the only creatures you can get, either directly or by exchanging, are common and uncommon creatures. However, someone mentioned that he got nixes by trading. By my estimation, nixes are rare (higher than uncommon) creatures.
Whoever has nixes should try it out and tell us whether we can resurrect nixes. I'm willing to bet that we can. |
We took the liberty of remapping the categories to "uncommon, rare, and epic".
Why? I feel it's a bit of a self important move to purposely create confusion like this simply because you like a different name. |
for Slust:
You can upgrade more than 50k in one go. You can not upgrade as much as 250k in one go. Or so I gathered from .ru.
So we can upgrade 10k in one go and this will give us 20k worth of a new creature? If so, how much can we upgrade in 1 go? |
for myevan2:
Also as appointed by others, the cost is 10% of leadership scores for that creature.
Some clarification on this point if you please.
It states on the creature upgrade info that you get 20% of the leadership value when you upgrade for those with a value greater than 50k. The implication of your words are that at higher levels of total leadership that percentage decreases to 10%. Either this is not communicated clearly in official updates (or I have missed them), or else the text saying you get 20% is wrong.
Thanks again
Please note, I have not upgraded a single creature, with my highest stack being at 39k, so essentially for me this is about the theory rather than the practice, I have a lot of waiting before that would be the case. |
For Meshy:
That's a valid point. But unknown to most people we do this all the time. We frequently don't take the literal translation.
Look at the recent update to the cross-court competition, for example. They use "Dazzle", we use "Blind". They use "Lord of Fire", we use "Dominion of Fire". They use "rage of the blood", we use "tribal spirit". |
For Lord MilesTeg:
20% of the leadership value of the stack, not of the max total leadership value of the troop based on the lord's LG level. |
It states on the creature upgrade info that you get 20% of the leadership value when you upgrade for those with a value greater than 50k. The implication of your words are that at higher levels of total leadership that percentage decreases to 10%. Either this is not communicated clearly in official updates (or I have missed them), or else the text saying you get 20% is wrong.
I read it as 10% of gold cost to resurect.
So we can upgrade 10k in one go and this will give us 20k worth of a new creature? If so, how much can we upgrade in 1 go?
? No. You can exchange anything in beetween 50k to ??? (probably 200kish) worth of leadership and get 20% of this into one single stack of uncommon creatures. |
I read it as 10% of gold cost to resurrect.
Oh, sorry I misunderstood the question. Yes, that's my assumption as well. That's why I assumed that it's not worth it to resurrect, because you typically lose 2K worth of creatures on the lowest difficult level, so that would cost 200 gold to resurrect, which is about the amount I get for the battle. |
| yeah, I got myself in a muddle, saw a percentage and thought him meant upgrade amount you get, though of course he was meaning the gold cost (and stated clearly enough I just had a senior moment) |
That's a valid point. But unknown to most people we do this all the time. We frequently don't take the literal translation.
Look at the recent update to the cross-court competition, for example. They use "Dazzle", we use "Blind". They use "Lord of Fire", we use "Dominion of Fire". They use "rage of the blood", we use "tribal spirit".
Does it?
The Russian name of the spell (and the word of the announcement) is Oslepleniye which translates into blindness (http://www.wordreference.com/ruen/%D0%9E%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5). I'm not sure the link will do but you can easily find it back with the cyrillic form that I'm not allowed to write. |
Look at the recent update to the cross-court competition, for example. They use "Dazzle", we use "Blind". They use "Lord of Fire", we use "Dominion of Fire". They use "rage of the blood", we use "tribal spirit".
Also we are familiar with these phrases, having done Google translate many times. If you're going to change something, I'd suggest making it clear to the community what has been changed to what. |
If you're going to change something, I'd suggest making it clear to the community what has been changed to what.
We didn't "change" anything that people had already been familiar with. This was the fist time any of us saw this table.
I see now that this was a mistake on my part to try to be transparent about this. Next people will demand that we explain every word that we use.
Rest assured that this won't happen again. |
We didn't "change" anything that people had already been familiar with. This was the fist time any of us saw this table.
Once a table has been Google translated, it's something we are familiar with, if you make a change then that should be conveyed at the start. That's what being transparent means.
I appreciate you trying to improve a translation, but if you don't convey what you're doing when it's published, you're creating confusion. |
| Nothing that has been google-translated should ever, ever be considered official, let alone something that you are "familiar with". |
