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I'm a fan of this type of rewarding system compared to the previous one but thus far no explanation as to it's method is satisfactory.
for Erathia:
The problem with such reasoning is that in this event, and credit to Lawton whom took the trouble to count how many factions are in the top 100 (post 215), it's only a certain number of factions that are dominating. The number of elfs (classic + charmer) is astonishing, there are give or take 28 of them, DE with 20 and dwarf with 19. 3 faction already taking up to 70% of the top efifciency.This isn't encouraging players to try other factions, this is just keeping the status quo intact.
If it truly vying to be the best for that faction of that class of that level, then there should be just 1 "best" player or a limit and not like in lv13 elf who has already took 6 spots. |
| The numbers can not represent everything, especially when you compare them with the number of players choosing elf de dwawf in the event.Players did not know the rewarding way when they played the event. Thus many players tried to use the easiest factions for it. The encouragement may take effect in the future, when we realize that with some other faction maybe the reward is easier to get. |
| Furthermore, if the 'efficiency' parameter is not introduced, more of the rewards will be given to these three factions. |
Even if they knew of the efficiency rewarding system, I reckon most if not all will still be playing with their respective faction. But yes this event is heavily bias in favour for the said faction and for higher level, though it is too early to judge the new system.
Hopefully for future events to come, admin side would at least give an official announcement to .com or even if not, to .ru regarding the efficiency system in play. |
| Just want to say I totally agree with Erathia. This system encourages players to use more diverse factions. Only problem is the lack of announcement ahead, but hey, that has always been the style of admins, aren't you guys used to that already? :D |
| Just want to say I totally agree with Erathia and liuker. This system encourages players to use more diverse factions. Only problem is the lack of announcement ahead, but hey, that has always been the style of admins, aren't you guys used to that already? :D |
Besides criticizing the fairness of current system, I also like to share some of my thoughts about this event.
The question I was wondering is: what is important for the difficulty of AI army? For example both me and Erathia got 63 wins but he got 38xx score while mine is 33xx. This confused me a lot.
So I analyzed our combat and see that he has won against most thieves he met but I lost 5/7 because I was not playing my main faction. So I end up with very easy AI opponent but Erathia keeps pushing his limit. That results in the difference in difficulty.
That in another words, you'll have to win more PVP battles in order to win this event. Knowing just how to defeat AI is not enough. |
| Kratos is another good example of this theory: he won 6/7 against thieves and he's got 4th rank all CL and factions |
| Just want to say I totally agree with Erathia liuker and RevolutionRebel! |
Great! liuker's assumption partly eliminate my confusion about the upper limit of difficulty.
At first, I thought the upper limit depends on both the delivered weight each time and the victories that I have gotten. But now it seems convincing for me that the battle results of ambushs by real players (although the number is so limited) may have a larger influence. Comparing between the enemy powers before/after the win/defeat in the ambushs by real players, I realize that liuker's assumption make sense. |
If only we had known ... It's not like I lost PVP battles on purpose, but I figured that I could just play them fast and without much thinking since I'd have to lose a battle anyway. One battle I forgot that I could encounter a player again already and missed the setup. I might have even changed to DD to be able to handle the players better.
Another thing though: I have a feeling that the last two days (the extra days) the thiefs were those who had a very good winrate with their thieving. Mostly fast factions like DE and elf. Knowing this, finishing the event asap seems to be a must to have a better chance. |
It seems that a score is calculated according to the difficulties of everyone's 30 hardest winning battles. The score compared to the average score (for the same level,same faction, same class) is called efficiency.
That can protect the factions that are not very good for this type of battles and encourage players to try different factions (so that the admins can have enough data for the design of new WG tasks)
How on earth they are encouraging trying different faction?Care to explain a bit coz I don't get it!! |
| Battle review is not available again!! Hmm its fishy coz seconds ago they are available. is it a glitch or miscalculation by admin ;) |
| I can still review them. |
for Konan_D:
The efficacy score is not based on the absolute strength of AI army, but based on your AI difficulty vs other players' who are same CL and faction as you are.
For example, I used charmer elf for this event, then my score is based on my AI strength vs other lvl 15 charmer elf player's AI strength.
So in order to get higher score, you must be playing A LOT better than others players at your CL and faction, regardless of the faction that you play. |
So in order to get higher score, you must be playing A LOT better than others players at your CL and faction
Or just be stronger. So people with decent understanding of strategy and a DU and the best arts for their CL have a very good chance. |
You guys are all making assumptions about the efficiency, while in truth the only info given about it is faulthy to begin with.
Had it really been the case that the efficiency was based 'Calculation of efficiency depended on the power of 30 of the most complex caravan losers relative to the other characters of the same level, faction and class.', then the rings would have been distributed evenly among the 9 factions since every faction would have had a best player for practicly every level at the end of the event since it wouldn't have mattered how many players played in that faction, like if only 3 people played as holy knight then one of them would still had to be chosen as the best of that level, faction and class according to the info, but not one holy knight got a ring. With the faction barbarian getting only 3 rings, faction demon getting 4 rings and faction knight also 4 rings, shows the truth even further. Had the info been true then the rings would have been distributed evenly among the factions and every faction would have gotten 11 rings and one of them 12 to make the total of 100. But this is sadly not the case. I mean really did no one and I mean absolutely no one play during the event in any combat level as a regular barbarian, shadow barbarian or holy knight? Since none of these classes got a ring. With the faction elf almost taking 30% of the rings one thing is obvious, not only does it look for the best of the same level, faction and class but it also compares them to the other best of the same level of other factions. This way even if you were the best level 13 barbarian in this event, when you got compared to the level 13 elfs scores, you probably didn't even have half of their score, what with their DU blinding unicorns you don't even stand a chance to get close to their scores. And the people cheering that this chosen system will encourage players to use more diverse factions? Think again, because it will clearly happen the other way around, as in almost all will be playing as elf, darkelf or dwarf the next time, since clearly all your efforts playing as a holy knight gets completely rubbed away when it gets compared to that of an elfs, so why even put in any effort the next time? The 3 factions of elf, darkelf and dwarf got 67% of all the rings, next time watch this even climb up higher. |
For example
3 best lv10 dark elves got 150 scores when the average for all 50 lv10 de is 100
1 best lv10 barb got 105 scores when the average for all 10 lv10 barb is 100
who will be rewarded ?
That implies you should be far better than the average, not only be on the top. |
| If you want to get a reward by only being the top in your level and faction, you can try to get a medal in the survuvir tour. |
LOL
You guys always gives oranges while some 1 ask for apple.
Let me repeat my question again & then we will start discussing in the new page
How on earth they are encouraging trying different faction?Care to explain a bit coz I don't get it!!
1st answer this. |
