| Author | Ukraine best skill guild or best cheater guild? |
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Could admins miss some people from putting in jain ?
send me to hell before you send me to jain dawg, those people dont even eat underground vegetables. |
for Murali:
Yes you’re correct complaining here does nothing. Why are we not complaining in the proper section? Because we do not believe the admins missed these players. We understand for one reason or another they decided not to penalize certain players. However their involvement in exploitation is undeniable therefor they are guilty. If you steal an item from the store but do not actually make it out of the store you still stole the item. Try telling security “well I didn’t actually benefit from this item yet so I didn’t actually steal it yet”. Do you see how the principal is intention and not personal gain? |
What if the security thinks that the item stolen is negligible and don't require his attention ?
Again, no one justifying the stealing of goods. It's the authority who decided what's punishable and what's not.
for Igles:
What's the pirate event all about ?
People are supplying things like food, medicine, rocks, tnt, cement, ammunition to the island in the name of event.
Is it for the benefit of the gaurds or perhaps some prisoner emptying the reserve in the island. We never know. |
Try telling security “well I didn’t actually benefit from this item yet so I didn’t actually steal it yet”. Do you see how the principal is intention and not personal gain?
This is actually very well said. I too believe that he did that with the INTENT of personal gain, but chickened out halfway. |
I was thinking of anwsering but decided not to.
But you guys can consider it a punishable offence and report me for insults. That is your logic anyways. |
https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=5#help_text
2.3. It is forbidden to profit from discovered errors in game algorithm, as well as any game actions, obviously not supposed by the service. In case of discovering a bug, please write about it at the corresponding forum branch or contact the Administration directly.
Game's rule says to "please" report it to administration, but it does not force users to do so. It is however "forbidden" to profit from it. He didn't.
He didn't yet take advantage of the bug. Did he intend to? In my opinion: A resounding "Yes, of course!". But he did not break game's rules. |
Because we do not believe the admins missed these players.
That's a very weak ground for whining. If you feel so concerned about it there's just one thing to do. |
For those that think he didn't take advantage of the bug:
2021-07-04 12:34: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Skeleton sailor-monster {76}
2021-07-04 12:31: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Infected zombies-monster {58}
2021-07-04 12:25: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Water elementals-monster {68}
2021-07-04 12:23: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Mountain sentries-monster {50}
2021-07-04 12:20: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Mountain sentries-monster {48}
2021-07-04 12:16: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Invaders-monster {48}
2021-07-04 12:13: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Snow warriors-monster {30}
2021-07-02 10:16: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Cyclops shamans-monster {38}
2021-07-02 10:12: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Giant lizards-monster {44}
2021-07-02 10:10: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Orc tyrants-monster {58}
2021-07-02 10:06: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Jackals-monster {20}
2021-07-02 10:04: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Turncoat Mages-monster {22}
2021-07-02 10:00: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Vampire counts-monster {66}
2021-07-02 09:55: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Nomads-monster {14}
2021-07-02 09:48: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Cyclop kings-monster {40}
2021-07-02 09:30: • Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Caravan of Knights
2021-07-02 09:14: Ëåâèîôàí[23] vs Skeleton sailor-monster {72}
And a ton of them in between other battles to dilute the combat list. It's during the exact same dates when the others were operating. From 2021-07-02 up to 2021-07-04. It's like one stole a whole cargo but others stole only a few sacks worth of stuff. But from what I see here a lot are doing their utter best to defend those that participated less in the scheme. Like I said you have those that oppose the abusers and those that try their utter best to defend them. And I do not think admins missed these players either, all they had to do was check the battles from 2021-07-02 up to 2021-07-04. Not even a blind man could miss that. |
Again. Real cheating started at 100+ levels which gave 1m gold. Level 50 monster gives nothing. They tried to exploit bug which gave so much reward AFTER level 100. Before 100 it's normal crap reward.
Admins know about him and he gained nothing. He clearly wanted to go for it but changed his mind. |
And i'm probably the last person in this server to defend them since they are enemy of my clan and we benefit from them being jailed big time. I hope they stay there for few years but we all know that won't happen.
But regarding Leviofan, admins know and he didn't exploit the bug. He fought high levels monsters and skipped quests with diamonds but gained nothing since he did not reach required level monster. |
| idk if he changed his mind, or he didnt manage to get there in time. |
Sounds like the people in the new round of questioning are like this (if I may use the aforementioned stealing example):
A person wants to steal a product from a store. He puts the product into his pocket and heads toward the door thinking about getting out of the store without paying. Then he sees his friends who did the same thing in front him got caught by the security guards. He quickly changes his mind and puts the product back to the shelf. Do you think this person will get punished (or even be tried) in real life? |
for bp99:
If That member is part of a notorious gang(clan) of players stealing from stores(exploiting buggs) he will get caught and put up for trial for sure in real life.
I'm not sure your example is all to correct |
for bp99:
Yes, it’s very common to charge all parties involved. They’re distinctly a group who was working together with this information to benefit themselves and their clan.
By your logic if 5 friends walk into a store and they all have the intention of stealing but only one person walks out with a bag full of stuff then the other 4 friends are not guilty. Again this isn’t about profit it is about intention
Again by your logic any cheating can be justified by simply saying you didn’t benefit from it
Hack the admins? “Ehh I just wanted to know what it felt like to be Empire for a bit it’s not like I gained anything”
You expect them to just be cool with that like “oh sure man here’s the login credentials. Check it out anytime!”
Again let’s be real here |
Cheating was getting 1m award from level 100 monster. He did not get there. Let's be real :)
Or what other cheating you have in mind? We allready told that you can skip MG quests with diamonds, we know that monsters quests skip one level (50, 52, 54...). We know that certain locations give some type of quest more often and that if you skip one type of quest you won't get it for some time. So what else?
He has many other sins...but no proof for admins. If you find them, great. I will be extremely happy but at this case he didn't do anything wrong. He spent lots of diamonds to get some monsters. Admins basicaly have nothing on him.
Lets focus on those who got caught with proof. What will happen to those....if anything even will happen. |
for mellor:
So what you’re saying is he spent a ton of money and stopped right before the payout threshold therefor only the admins profited so they chose not to jail him because they see him as a pay pig. Thanks for explaining |
| Yes. You can not punish someone for what he has not done. He had intent but he did not do it. |
for mellor:
Thats false bro. if u intend to bomb a building and built a bomb u will get punished bro |
Lol. Comparison is absurd. If anything he has thought of bombing a building and has drawn a bomb on a piece of paper. Still not a reason to be punished.
Btw. To throw accousations like this you have to be clean yourself first. Was told that someone here was not such a saint himself. Drawing attention to yourself when you cheat too is not a smart thing. And yes, sometimes russians read our topics too. |
Thats false bro. if u intend to bomb a building and built a bomb u will get punished bro
Sure, in the real world, but this isn't the real world, it's a game. In games people get punished for actually cheating rather than intending to but backing out. |
