| Author | 40th Minor tournament ++ |
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for grif:
tribal is the best counter to shadow barb, you lose because of:
1. bad build, full defense build is used for shaman-goblin set, not centaur set.
2. bad play, all in a 5*5 suffering disrupt, hitting hynena without taking retal, no good using at hero abilities, etc.
tribal is a very tricky faction, it is not smart to play pvp with tribal before you get familiar to it. |
| Another thing is the percentile- it is not 90% but a percentile. So it definitely improves chances for a gold. |
RR maybe you got any example battles ?
my mistake was that i didnt take inuf mana in 1st battles. i lost 2 battles to shadow barbar 2nd i was trying my ass off but i still found to hard to win .
it is not smart to play pvp with tribal before you get familiar to it. i think playing it is the best way to learn . |
http://lgnd.ru/mt39/rating/lvl/16/r/9
you can find good players here and check their combats. |
I got 20947 XP and 7.89 FSP for one win (opponent was AFK) while I got 14288 XP and 7.92 FSP for another win given below respectively.
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=892762539
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=892766680
Can anyone tell me why the discrepancy? |
@santremus I think its how clear your victory is
for example i got 10k in a very clear win but only like 6k when i won with like 5% army left
might be something else but im 99% sure |
for Santremus:
It depends on the faction. Some give more exp than others (e.g dwarf tends to give low exp). |
It will be interesting as to how evenly the rewards come out on this. Depends upon how they interpret things and how many people get involved.
If we take CL16 from the last minor tourney as a comparison. In this there was a prize of 2.8M. They have roughly doubled this to 5.4M.
They have changed it to being in the top percentile of your faction instead of on win rate. This feels fairer, though is it with the numbers we have, in survival tournies it is not so much as I recall.
So there were 113 people who achieved 15 wins in the last tourney (at CL16), take this and divide it by your number of factions (assuming even distribution which is obviously false but easiest approximation) and you get a number around 13. This means that you could expect around 13 people to complete the tourney with 15 wins for your faction. This means that the top 10% is, well, one or two. In effect this means gold is probably now only for the top placing person of that faction. Meaning, the only way of guaranteeing gold is to get 100% win rate.
If however they do it based on the total number of people who compete then it will be a larger number. How this works out for less numerable combat levels I do not know. The hope from teh admins point of view must be that more people complete 15 battles - this may work.
I think while the prize has doubled, will the number of people completing 15 wins double (counting each time for each faction). IF no then the bronze prize will increase- this may make it cost effective for your potion of skill. If popular the bronze prize amount will go down.
I also noted in my last battle I got some imperial armour - if this is the pattern then they are clearly expectign most people to rack up wins from multiple factions to get close to the max of 51. Interesting times! |
for grif:
can any one take down shadow barbar ? tribal has no chance vs them ..
DoF is very useful - granted I don't think my opposition set up right (not enough cyclops stacks for a start) though the basic notion of being able to half 55 ogres in one hit tends to help a lot against defensive factions. I struggle against high attack ones by comparison. |
oop I forgot the link
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=892798012 |
| Ah I skimmed the news, missed the info about imperial armour parts, oops again |
Max 1 Loss for Gold
Max 3 Loss for Silver
it says 80 and 90 procent among same level same faction participants, not win rate.
there is 80 elves at cl 15, so if i make it to top 10 i get gold. |
So there were 113 people who achieved 15 wins in the last tourney (at CL16), take this and divide it by your number of factions (assuming even distribution which is obviously false but easiest approximation) and you get a number around 13. This means that you could expect around 13 people to complete the tourney with 15 wins for your faction. This means that the top 10% is, well, one or two. In effect this means gold is probably now only for the top placing person of that faction. Meaning, the only way of guaranteeing gold is to get 100% win rate.
Well, there will definitely be more players because more people tend to participate in new things.
Also, for some factions its not possible to attain 100% win rate, so for those particular faction this percentile system can help to gain gold medal at very low winrate too.
For example, dwarves are very weak at lvl 11. Means all dwarves are weak, and maybe topper of dwarf ends up with say ~70% win rate, in this way he still get to have gold medal.
Although I agree on your point.
For popular factions like DE, elf, and high lvl dwarf, you might be needing 100% ratio ( i think ). But time will tell :) |
Did not know we can face same opponent twice in MT.
Just faced in continuation, he must be pissed ;) |
for ProZyk:
yes, I got a same person today too. |
| nice work ProZyk, looks like you have 2 gold medals already - I wondere if you can get the set....!? |
nice work ProZyk
Impressive work :)
Besides that, has anyone tried / seen piercing luck dwarves with zerk / shooter build (with 0 bears)? What I'm thinking is that the zerks are always fragile so they might fit better in a build where other guys are fragile as well. And on the other hand low def build doesn't seem the best for bears whose knock works best when they're in high numbers |
for IComeInPeace:
good thought, but I would say no.
berserker is good at defending but not attacking, it is a big threat for those who dare to rush dwarf, but far worse if you want to rush opponent.
and with piercing luck+high atk, berserker do not deals that more damage than bear. |
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=893028281<=-1
I feel sorry for that dude. He did almost nothing. |
| Can you dispel the blind spell with your own earth spikes? |
