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Are people really complaining that they make the AI better...
This is great news, hope they will become less predictable and exploitable. |
for Lord Khellendros:
It doesn't affect you since all you do is play 1 hunt every month... |
@Atheros
I like that you can disregard my opinion because I have not played much lately :D
I have played many computer games and also played many lords battles. I think I can form an opinion about AI.
AI is something that many games struggles to get less predictable and exploitable. But games with good AI is more interesting, challenging and rewarding!
Why do we play games if not to challenge our self to find good solutions. Do we want the same tactics to work and just play based on previous experience or do we want to think and keep finding new ways to improve! I know what I want.
Mb one of the reason I don't play is in part the bad AI. To me the game had become stagnant and was less about skill and more about just pushing buttons. I hope that will change now! |
games with good AI is more interesting, challenging and rewarding
I do not find the new AI any challening,its downright unfair to players
Why do we play games if not to challenge our self to find good solutions. Do we want the same tactics to work and just play based on previous experience or do we want to think and keep finding new ways to improve! I know what I want
there is no thinking invloved when the whole army waits so just the huge enemy shooter in corner shoots you down.not any kind of strategy is able to win these battles:
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=666023389
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=665907430
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=665897129
and before you mention that i have won some battles...yes i did when the enemy numbers were low or not waiting |
AI troops are being improved at the moment. The first step will be over in 1-2 weeks. So, don't be afraid of any changes or weird situations during the battles!
Maybe wait to judge is so harshly until changes are fully implemented.
The attempt to improve the game with better AI is a great step. It could make a good game even better. |
Let's help the whiners :
- DDem with fat temptresses possessing and decoy hounds taking the first hits
- HKnight with StandGround talent on griffins
- wizards... just doing their normal wizard thing
These strats had impressive win rates with medium AP, and I don't see that changing with the new AI. Try them out, and let the admins do their good work.
I guess it's the braindead Might noobs realizing that there is more to the game than their playstyle, when they get the shafting they deserve. |
improving AI is unfair in this stage, unless Admins reduce the enemy's HP.
if AI plays like us with those stats and with large amount of troops, it will be De-moralizing. |
it will be De-moralizing
Then play necro ;o) |
lol ^^
last def one stack(not much big ,but big compare to other stack) of berserk wait, while other small stack move mid way. this is smart and ok since it give some challenge :P but a big stack covering relatively big amount of shooters is horrible. |
Eddy is absolutely right. I don't think anyone is objecting to the changes themselves, just that the way they have been implemented has been very poorly done.
It is obvious that if you improve the performance of the AI troops by (say) 100% in effectiveness (which is true for some changes) then there needs to be a considerable reduction in the number of troops.
I really can't see why the developers did not anticipate this and make preliminary adjustments to such an obvious failing. Did they not do any testing at all? The current set up is not even close to equilibrium for some factions so major changes would have to be made anyway before the game can be played by most players. Absolutely bewildering.
JJ |
Playing against a smart ai is good and challenging.
I just hope that admins balance the ai strength with relative to there intelligence instead of letting players loose battles and get the ai strength down. |
i too agree about AI improvement..Make the computer smarter so it becomes smart just like human..but leave the army recruit count alone..fix the amount of army and just improve their strategy and tactics
the current system is just sick...with mid level of AI intelligence and large army..It will crush you if you don't gear up properly
Specially in TG..Without enchant you cannot win |
IMHO, admins weren't sure how much they need to reduce the amount of troops, and they do not have that time and energy to test all levels and factions and types of battles, so they let players do the job and they can analyze the data.
And it's always better to start with higher difficulty then reasonable difficulty than starting with easy modes then increase the difficulty. |
And it's always better to start with higher difficulty then reasonable difficulty than starting with easy modes then increase the difficulty
Care to explain why you think this? It is not at all obvious why it should ever be so let alone "always"
JJ |
for Marhallet:
it's very likely that admins don't know the factor yet. The difficulty must be reduced individually, for each level and faction and build. |
Are we going to be improved too? :)
When AI is smart enough it is like fighting f.e. 10 vs 1 (troops amount). |
But why is it "always better"? You don't explain why that is ever true.
I would suggest that what we have is the worst way to make the change for TG and Survilurgs where the game makes some adjustment in difficulty with the win / loss ratio. If they had weakened the stacks by say 50% that would give players the incentive to play the game and after some wins the difficulty would increase appropriately. They can use the data from the battles with the new AI to adjust the base numbers for the various TG and Survilurg set ups for each of the factions.
Whereas now players like myself have stopped playing TG because it is far too difficult and until there is a substantial fix to the problem they've created I can't see many players wanting to play. So they get less data and annoy a lot of their players.
JJ |
| for Marhallet: That's the point. We play for months to reach some TG difficulty level and then someone change rules. |
I can't see many players wanting to play
last time I searched "caravan" in "current battles" I found 148 battles. |
Please don't try to distract.
Can you, for the third and last time, please answer my question.
Why is it "always better"? It puzzles me that anyone should think that.
JJ |
