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to pang:
elf are ofc gr8 for hunts n tg, but in GB's pvp's it is really rare that my GMB gets turn at all.... they are first targets. atleast with new bows with 11 initiative i can get a turn. n efk cos of low hp n def are tooooo vulnerable to high speed troops unless or until they get get morale..... elf can never even dream to defeat support build knight, might wiz, any good fsl necro. n in GB's mostly never get to play getting killed first..... trees alone stand only for other team players on their capacity to win or lose :-(
to vitual_vitrea
do u know how cool elf are for hunts and thief. thats y ppl opt for elf... but pvp is the thing which keeps the game going. it is the blood of the game. n bro u are really worng bout lvl 12 onwards. lvl 3- 8 elf can beat any faction any build and style. one on one. it is the best. till lvl 10 everthing goes well. only after the trees entrance even though individually the troops may seem powerful, the scope for strategy is lil and usually the combats before start itself we can know the result. n poor DE cant even defeat elf in pvp.... DE are the only faction elf can defeat easily.
to slust:
no buddy barb is also ok, can be defeated. DE can be easily defeated. other than that against all other factions, elf has serious disadvantages (pvp's)...
with 40% majority waiting the admins really need to care for these two factions. it is not bout that if other factions if introduced then ppl may change faction and increase its population. ppl may not be that much into it. they may opt to be in rest and wait for their respective faction. it reduces the activities in the game.... with the admins giving this favour for the 40% majority induces game activity a lot + if the other factions lik wiz, barb are introduced later also the effect will not be great and then too the chances are the same. moreover for eg wiz is introduced first then ppl may temporarily choose to play wiz and later permanently settle with elf or DE when the altgrade is introduced but vice versa is much better for ur goal too!!!
well even though all these things are there i feel it quite obvious the next altgrade is gonna be wiz. but i really hope it is that of DE or elf.... |
elf are ofc gr8 for hunts n tg, but in GB's pvp's it is really rare that my GMB gets turn at all.... they are first targets. atleast with new bows with 11 initiative i can get a turn. n efk cos of low hp n def are tooooo vulnerable to high speed troops unless or until they get get morale..... elf can never even dream to defeat support build knight, might wiz, any good fsl necro.
Your GMB won't get its turn because your character is weak(no TG) NOT Elf faction. do you really think you can have a lot of sharpshooters with luck talent and all?!!. some factions can't defeat other certain factions.1 good example is Knight against Wiz. So all your points are invalid. |
but i really hope it is that of DE or elf....
Sorry but it's unlikely to be them, they're probably going to come out right at the other end of this long road, before Tribals and Dwarves though.
My personal hope is for DE (and Barb) too, but we need to be realistic :p, alt wiz seem to have a good lead in as well as a need for revitalizing, on the other hand barb needs some attention too but requires a lot more work as the whole class cannot just be copied from HoMMV like any other faction |
to fallen atheros:
hey mate are u trying to be funny?
if knight is weak against wiz, he is weak only against wiz, not like 3 or 4 factions. here the case is beign totally different, being too much vulnerable to many without any hope. watever build we keep we lose. also i forgot to add any player wit darkness magic..... |
prajoy :
blah blah ... okay. |
Its a shame, 'cause barbarians are awesome but slowy decreasing in players..
You think this is a bad thing? I chose to be a Demon exactly because it has the fewest players. Look at Elf and Drow. They are the two most popular races but they also have some of the worst win ratio. One reason (conspiracy theory) could be that the admins want to weaken them to discourage more players from picking them. Another (more reasonable) would be that everyone knows they are the most popular therefore everyone gets loads of antiskills against them. I am thinking of raising my Elf and Drow levels up to FSL 7 (or 6) and the rest only at FSL 6 (or 5) just because I expect to encounter more of them.
http://lgnd.ru/gt/balance |
@Prajoy
First a little tip:
It is never a good idea to judge your own faction strength, often you will be biased and notice own weaknesses and other faction strengths.
It seems you have fallen in that trap, overall the game is pretty well balanced for PvP and Elf is very far from short-changed. They are a very strong opponent in PvP in the hands of a capable player.
If you need inspiration then there exist many very talented Elf players, I could mention many but from your clan todesh comes to mind as a very good example of how to turn the Elf faction into a very scary opponent
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4554687
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About which class will come next, I really don't care but do agree with many that tribal and dwarf will be most likely be last |
| Elf and DE are one of the strongst. Ii would like it if Barb and Tribal are given altgrades |
for Lord Khellendros:
Well said, todesh is a true master on elf mastery.
elf are ofc gr8 for hunts n tg, but in GB's pvp's it is really rare that my GMB gets turn at all.... they are first targets. atleast with new bows with 11 initiative i can get a turn. n efk cos of low hp n def are tooooo vulnerable to high speed troops unless or until they get get morale..... elf can never even dream to defeat support build knight, might wiz, any good fsl necro. n in GB's mostly never get to play getting killed first..... trees alone stand only for other team players on their capacity to win or lose :-(
Seems you don't know how to play as elf. Time to training, I guess.
I don't know what will be the next alt faction, but it seems when elf come, it will be based on chaos magic. Anyway, I hope we still have some mighty talents (luck, ofense, leadership... any of those) to play with that faction. The troops are awesome, and waste it with only chaos magic would be a pity. |
The troops are awesome, and waste it with only chaos magic would be a pity.
Not if admins use one of the original talents from HOMM.
It is called Imbue arrow.
Every attack of the hero is also imbued by a spell of his choice.
Now combine it with Rain of arrows and you make a HUGE dmg. :)
But seems to me it would be seriously overpowered here.After all this game is quite different from original HOMM.
In one-on-one combat it would not pose a problem i think, but in group combat it could make a slaughter in a few turns i guess.
Just imagine a 3 vs 3 game and a possibility to cast 3 chain lightning (or meteor shower) at once :) |
| anyone else love fortress as much as i do?? |
to debeljuca:
exactly i too am hoping for the same...... elf chaoser os for sure the alt grade. but whether imbune arrow talent is gonna be there is a doubt.
but as far as i think if imbune arrow talent is given. it will become the centre talent. so obviously rain of arrows talent will be removed.... so combination of the two talents is not gonna be possible
to Lord Khellendros and Lord Khellendros:
maybe u are true mate. i dun know how it is with all those dragons....but as of now am really suffering. . moreover todesh is totally into TG..... None can deny Elf and DE are the best for TG, (recently holy dwarf also) but TG againt players are rare....n it is against the other pvp am talking bout.... as of TG pvp even i have won 90% of em against players.... but other Pvp's only inspire the game..... TG's are just for fsp.... atleast if there is option that i can choose whether to loot caravans or players, it might be good..... but now.... i really hate those boring caravans. they just come like a cycle gets stronger, weaker, stronger, weaker.... gets boring.....:-( |
sorry for repost
Real thx to Grusharaburas for the link. very useful link to check for strengths and weakness of faction
http://lgnd.ru/gt/balance |
You obviously don't know how to play as an elf. Its every's factions nightmare to face an full geared elf.
You seriously need to learn how to play like an elf on PVP.
You don't play PVP because you're weak at it, because you don't practise it, you'll never get any better.
An alt upgrade won't make you stronger, only your skills make you stronger. So start building your charachter!
Don't rely on luck and critical, make you're own strategy :).
Nevertheless, get some TGI points, an elf with high thief is faster then any other faction and VERRY deadly. Its obvious you're troops get later turns.. The enemys has a better build charachter (E.G. TGI INI).
Its not because you are elf and DE that those should be upgraded.
The mods are letting the barbarians down, they don't have anything special (like magic) it needed that they get something new, not the elfs.. |
for _-PRAJOY-_:
Totally agreed with Lady Elwe..I think u need a gd strategie..
First time seeing a elf complaing abt his faction -_- |
First time seeing an elf complaining about his faction -_-lol it is because he having not much good hero statistics.
In high lvl an elf must have good guild bones especially TG bones and some anti skill. otherwise he is useless in PvP.
They have some weakness verse tank builds or holy builds other than that they are good in all format as per my experience :P
new elf alt must be chaos caster because alt Druid have some nice ability which increase heroes spell power :) |
Since barbarians don't have access to any magic at all I wonder how their alt-class could look like.
But I definitely hope for wizards to get the next alt-class :) Currently there's only one build for them. |
Currently there's only one build for them
Well, there's always might :p, correct me if I am wrong because my knowledge has come from HoMM, but might wiz is very powerful if used well, but if alt wiz was to come now I would hope a might build is the primary one as they seem very might orientated, with the exception of the magnetic golems though. (I think they're lodestone golems on here?) |
| i have to accept with that of poison ivy. true i dint develop all the skills properly.... only now i am playing TG n all..... till lvl 12 most of the time all that i would play is duels n GB's.... playing such was great fun but never increased my character..... but game is all bout fun rite.... yet i suffer like hell.... |
_-PRAJOY-_
Don't worry try to do more TG and get TG4 as early as possible. also you are close to HG7 :) your elf fsl looks great, if you are too interested in PVP get some anti for knight,necro and barb. |
